Resonance in a Mechanical System

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The problem involves a mass attached to a massless spring, which is free to rotate about a fixed point on a frictionless surface. The original poster seeks to determine the length of the spring as a function of the angular frequency of revolution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to equate the spring force with the centripetal force but expresses confusion about isolating the length of the spring and the role of the unstretched length.
  • Some participants question the use of the variable "l" and its implications in the equations provided.
  • There is a discussion about the elastic force when the spring is at its unstretched length.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the correct interpretation of the forces involved and clarifying the definitions of the variables used. Guidance has been offered regarding the elastic force at the unstretched length of the spring.

Contextual Notes

There is a potential ambiguity in the use of the variable "l" to represent different lengths, and the role of the unstretched length l0 is under consideration. The original poster is seeking clarification on these points.

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Homework Statement


A mass m is attached to one end of a massless spring with a force constant k and an unstretched length l0. The other end of the spring is free to turn about a nail driven into a frictionless, horizontal surface. The mass is made to revolve in a circle with an angular frequency of revolution ω.
Question:
Calculate the length l of the spring as a function of ω.

Homework Equations


F = ω2*l*m
FSpring = k*l


The Attempt at a Solution


Fspring = Fcirc
-k*l = ω2*l*m

The issue I am having is how to get L by itself, or what I am supposed to do with l0. Can someone guide me on where I should head in order to solve this problem? The issue is l cancels when I divide, unless I am supposed to use l0 in place of l
Thanks!
 

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You are using "l" to designate two different things.
If "l" in the first equation is the total length of the spring (radius of the circle), then the elastic force is not correct. The force does not depend on the total length.
What is the force when the length is lo?
 
The force when length lo is just omega^2 *m*lo correct?
 
No. What is the elastic force ("produced" by the spring) when the spring's length is lo?
Hint: at lo the spring is unstretched.
 

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