Rewriting f(x) to Simplify an Integral Problem

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The discussion revolves around the integral ∫1/((√x)+x)dx, focusing on how to rewrite the function f(x) to simplify the integration process. Participants express challenges with algebraic manipulation while understanding the calculus involved.

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  • Participants suggest various substitutions, such as u=√x, and discuss the potential of breaking the integral into simpler parts. There are inquiries about what has been tried and where participants feel stuck, particularly regarding algebraic simplification.

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Some participants have offered guidance on substitutions and methods to approach the integral, while others acknowledge difficulties with algebra. There is an ongoing exploration of different strategies without a clear consensus on the best approach.

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Several participants mention feeling rusty with algebra, which may impact their ability to manipulate the integral effectively. There is also a reference to homework guidelines that restrict sharing complete solutions.

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Homework Statement



∫1/((√x)+x))dx

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The Attempt at a Solution

I understand the calculus but not the algebra, it's been a while. How can I write f(x) differently to make the problem seem easier?
 
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Do a suitable substitution.
 
wr1985 said:

Homework Statement



∫1/((√x)+x))dx

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution

I understand the calculus but not the algebra, it's been a while. How can I write f(x) differently to make the problem seem easier?
Hello wr1985. Welcome to PF !

What have you tried?

Where are you stuck?
 
I feel like I have to rearrange the function to get a good u value but my algebra is rusty and using x or sqrt x aren't giving me a clean answer.
 
you should break it up, into ∫√x dx and ∫x dx, and use technique on one of them. Do you know the technique? It is a less known method, but Stewart's Calculus lists it as a good method.
 
You mean using either of the substitutions u=x or u=√x aren't giving you a clean answer?
The first one doesn't help you at all, but the second one should give you something you can integrate after simplification.
 
the simplification is the only problem. my algebra is in the toilet.
 
wr1985 said:

Homework Statement



∫1/((√x)+x))dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution

I understand the calculus but not the algebra, it's been a while. How can I write f(x) differently to make the problem seem easier?

Let u=sqrt x. Then x = u^2. Then use partial fractions to solve.

Edit: I just realized that algebrat was saying exactly what I'm saying right now.
 
So what did you get after the substitution?
 
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Bohrok said:
So what did you get after the substitution?

I don't think I can give the whole answer in the homework help section.
 
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Your algebra can't be that far in the toilet. Make the substitution suggested, don't forget to find the proper substitution for dx, and the integral is elementary.
 
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Bohrok said:
So what did you get after the substitution?

dimension10 said:
I don't think I can give the whole answer in the homework help section.
dimension10,

I'm pretty sure that Bohrok was addressing that to OP, wr1985.
 
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'Factor' the denominator

∫1/(√x(1+√x))dx

Maybe it would be clearer this way.

∫[1/(1+√x)](dx/√x)
 
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SammyS said:
dimension10 said:
Bohrok said:
wr1985 said:

Homework Statement



∫1/((√x)+x))dx

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

I understand the calculus but not the algebra, it's been a while. How can I write f(x) differently to make the problem seem easier?
So what did you get after the substitution?
I don't think I can give the whole answer in the homework help section.
dimension10,

I'm pretty sure that Bohrok was addressing that to OP, wr1985.

Oh..
 

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