Rifle shot and pointed barrel to hit center

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving projectile motion, specifically the trajectory of a bullet fired from a rifle aimed at a target. The goal is to determine how high the rifle barrel must be elevated above the target center to ensure the bullet hits the target accurately, taking into account the effects of gravity over a distance of 42.5 meters.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss calculating the time it takes for the bullet to reach the target and how to determine the vertical drop due to gravity during that time. There are questions about the correct interpretation of the problem and the use of trigonometric functions to find the required angle of elevation.

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Several participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including the use of trigonometric identities and the implications of gravity on the bullet's trajectory. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations needed to find the angle, but there is still some uncertainty about the interpretation of the question and the calculations involved.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the problem's wording and the necessity of converting units, as well as the importance of maintaining consistency in the units used throughout the calculations.

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[SOLVED] Rifle shot

Homework Statement


A rifle that shoots bullets at 475 m/s is to be aimed at a target 42.5 m away. If the center of the target is level with the rifle, how high (in cm) above the target must the rifle barrel be pointed so that the bullet hits dead center?

Homework Equations



sin(2theta) = gd/v0^2

The Attempt at a Solution



So sin(2theta) = (9.8)*(4250)/(47500^2) = 1.84598338e-5

So sin(2theta) = ?
 
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first calculate how long it would take the bullet to reach the target

then using that time and the Earth's acceleration, calculate how much it must have dropped at the end

this is the height b

a is the horizontal distance
http://em-ntserver.unl.edu/Math/mathweb/trigonom/Image289.gif

calculate the angle

i'm not to sure you can use a right triangle here though, so don't take my word for it :D
 
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One needs to work out in cm how high the barrell must be pointed. That means that the gun will be parallel to the ground and all you have to do is work out how far the bullet will deviate vertically due to gravity.
 
So I have v0, x0 and xF and G. I need to find t in order to find y0 right? I can just assume that the ground is parallel to yF would be 0?
 
Yes you will need to find t. Just assume the middle of the target is the 0 point for height.
 
Is there an equation that I don't have to know the angle in order to solve?
 
Oh sorry I think I mis-read the question. It is asking for the angle I think, but to me its not written very clearly.
 
So my original answer is right excluding the fact that its wrong?
 
Your original approach is correct except you seem to be multiplying some of the numbers by 100 for no reason. Once you have the angle you can use trig to find the height above the target centre.
 
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I was doing that so I wouldn't have to convert to cm later on. sin(2theta) = 1.84598338e-5 is right? So how do I just find the angle?
 
  • #11
Keep it in meters and convert later. Its not correct because the acceleration due to gravity is in ms-2. Once you have [itex]\sin(2\theta) = ...[/itex] you need to take the inverse sin of the number you get. That will give you twice the angle.
 
  • #12
So (-9.8 m/s^2)(42.5)/(475^2m/s) = sin(2theta)? = -.0018459834

Theta = -1.057671168? But that doesn't seem right.
 
  • #13
You're a decimal place out and you can lose the minus sign. The angle you have there is twice the angle you want. Remember the bullet travels very fast so the angle will only be small.
 
  • #14
So .0018459834 should be .00018459834? /2 = the angle I want?
 
  • #15
AnkhUNC said:
So .0018459834 should be .00018459834? /2 = the angle I want?

[itex]\theta[/itex] = 0.106/2. Then one can work out how far above the target the bullet will be aimed through trigonometry.
 
  • #16
42.5*tan(.053) = .393135526m = 3.93cm! Thanks!
 
  • #17
Sorry for the initial confusion.
 

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