RMS of complex waveform (acoustics)

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The discussion focuses on deriving expressions for total acoustic pressure and mean squared pressure from two harmonic plane progressive waves traveling in opposite directions. The total acoustic pressure is expressed through linear superposition as the sum of the two waves. The mean squared pressure is derived using the formula that incorporates the magnitudes of the complex amplitudes and their real parts, leading to a cosine term. Participants clarify the notation of complex numbers and explore the implications of expanding complex amplitudes into real and imaginary components. The conversation emphasizes the mathematical understanding of these acoustic principles.
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Hey everyone, just got a quick question in acoustics. I am mainly looking for a mathematical understanding

Homework Statement



Consider two harmonic plane progressive waves of the form

\tilde{P(x)} = \tilde{A}e-jkx

and\tilde{P(x)} = \tilde{B}e+jkx

traveling in opposite directions. Showing all workings, derive expressions for:

1) Total acoustic pressure
2) Total mean squared pressurein the above expressions \tilde{P(x)} represents the acoustic pressure and \tilde{A} and \tilde{B} are complex amplitudes

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The Attempt at a Solution



my solution for part 1 is due to linear superposition:

\tilde{P(x)} = \tilde{A}e-jkx + \tilde{B}e+jkx

i know that the SOLUTION to the second part is:

|\tilde{P(x)}|2 = |\tilde{A}e-jkx|2 + |\tilde{B}e+jkx|2 + 2Re{ \tilde{A}\tilde{B}*}cos(kx)

where Re{} denotes the real part ( I couldn't find the actual symbol ), * denotes the complex conjugate and k is the wave number ( k= ω/c )

like i said above i am trying to get a mathematical understanding of the second part. I do not understand how this solution is derived. Thanks
 
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Note: \Re gives ##\Re## ... it's easier to just type out the LaTeX than use the equation editor.

What do the tildas indicate here?

$$\tilde{P}\!_A(x) = \tilde{A}e^{-jkx}\\

\tilde{P}\!_B(x)=\tilde{B}e^{jkx}\\

\tilde{P}(x)=\tilde{A}e^{-jkx}+\tilde{B}e^{jkx}\\$$

You want to understand this:
$$\left | \tilde{P}(x) \right |^2=\left | \tilde{A}e^{-jkx}\right |^2+\left | \tilde{B}e^{jkx}\right |^2 = \left |\tilde{A}\tilde{B}^\star\right | \cos(kx)$$

ABcosθ would normally be a scalar product right - so how does that work if A and B are complex valued?

What happens if you expand the complex amplitudes into ##\tilde{A}=a+jb\; , \; \tilde{B}=c+jd## and expand the exponentials into trig functions?
 
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Hey, thanks for the reply.

i believe the tilda is the nomenclature used to represent a Complex number.
I will try what you have suggested
 
You may not need to though:

If: ##z=a+jb##

Then: ##|z|^2 = a^2+b^2 = z\cdot z^\star ##
 
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