Rolles Theorem, showing two distinct points.

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The discussion revolves around the application of Rolle's Theorem to the function g(x) = x^5 + 3x - 1, specifically addressing whether there exist distinct points x_1 and x_2 in ℝ such that g(x_1) = g(x_2).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a proof by contradiction, assuming two distinct solutions x_1 and x_2 and applying Rolle's Theorem, concluding that this leads to a contradiction due to the derivative being always positive.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial proof but points out a potential error in the assumption regarding the sum of g(x_1) and g(x_2), suggesting it should be a difference instead.
  • A different approach is proposed, stating that since the derivative g'(x) is positive for all x, the function g is increasing everywhere, which implies that if g(x_1) = g(x_2), then x_1 must equal x_2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the initial proof's formulation, particularly regarding the assumption about g(x_1) and g(x_2). While there is agreement on the conclusion that g is one-to-one, the discussion reflects multiple perspectives on the reasoning involved.

Contextual Notes

There is an unresolved point regarding the correct interpretation of the relationship between g(x_1) and g(x_2) in the context of the proof by contradiction. Additionally, the application of Rolle's Theorem is contingent on the assumptions made about the function's behavior.

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Have the following question and just wondering if my solution is correct

Let g(x)= x^5+3x-1. Show that there are no distinct points x_1, x_2 in R such that g(x_1)=g(x_2).

Proof by contradiction. Assume we have two solution x_1<x_2 in ℝ, i,e g(x_1)+g(x_2)=0, since g is differentiable on (x_1,x_2) and continuous on [x_1,x_2], then we can apply rolles theorem, there exits a C belonging to (x_1, x_2) such that df/dx=0, however df/dx=5x^4+3>0 Hence we have a contradiction and only one solution to f(x)=0.

Many thanks in advance.
 
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Sounds correct!
 
srhjnmrg said:
Have the following question and just wondering if my solution is correct

Let g(x)= x^5+3x-1. Show that there are no distinct points x_1, x_2 in R such that g(x_1)=g(x_2).

Proof by contradiction. Assume we have two solution x_1<x_2 in ℝ, i,e g(x_1)+g(x_2)=0,
I presume you mean g(x_1)- g(x_2)= 0, not the sum.

since g is differentiable on (x_1,x_2) and continuous on [x_1,x_2], then we can apply rolles theorem, there exits a C belonging to (x_1, x_2) such that df/dx=0, however df/dx=5x^4+3>0 Hence we have a contradiction and only one solution to f(x)=0.

Many thanks in advance.
 
Or you could just take the direct approach. Since g'(x) = 5x4 + 3, we see that g'(x) > 0 for all x, which means that the graph of g is increasing on the entire real line, hence g is one-to-one. This fact implies that if g(x1) = g(x2), then x1 = x2.
 

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