Rot. + Trans. Motion: Conservation of E

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In this discussion, the focus is on analyzing an inelastic collision between a clay mass and a uniform thin rod pivoted at one end. The initial kinetic energy is calculated using the formula E_initial = 1/2 mv0^2, while the final energy involves both rotational and translational components. The moment of inertia for the system is determined using the parallel axis theorem, accounting for the clay mass's distance from the pivot. The conservation of angular momentum is emphasized as a key principle to find the final velocity of the combined system. The discussion ultimately seeks to clarify the fraction of energy loss during the collision and the correct application of rotational dynamics.
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Suppose of uniform thin rod (mass M, length b) is attached to a pivot at the top. A piece of clay of mass m strikes the rod at distance x below the pivot at v0 perpendicular to the rod and sticks to it.

I understand the E is not conserved b/c this is an inelastic collision (clay sticks to rod). But would the fraction of E loss be during the collision?

I think:

Fraction of E loss = E final / E initial where E initial = 1/2mv0^2 but what would E final be?

Can someone please help with respect to the rod's rotational and translational E? What would it's moment of inertia be? Should I apply parallel axis theorem?
 
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So the problem is to find the final velocity of the system, and by that the final energy?
Eini = 1/2mv_0^2\\<br /> Efinal = E_{rot} + E_{trans} = 1/2I\omega^2
So no translation(pivot).
The uniform rod has a moment of interia about its center of mass: I_{cm}=(M+m)b^2/12\\ I = I_{cm}+(M+m)r^2 = (M+m)(r^2+b^2\dfrac{1}{12})
Now use the conservation of angular momentum just before collision and after, cause the sum of external torque is zero.
 
I don't think so...

The axis of rotation is at the end of the rod (where the pivot is) so I = 1/3(M+m)L^2 + mx^2 (m is point particle at distance x from axis of rotation).
 
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