Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Sarah Palin Good Choice for VP?

  1. Best Choice McCain could have made-- will definitely help

    9 vote(s)
    22.0%
  2. Not the best, but should help his campaign

    9 vote(s)
    22.0%
  3. Bold and Risky Choice -- hard to tell

    6 vote(s)
    14.6%
  4. Will ultimately hurt his campaign

    17 vote(s)
    41.5%
  1. Sep 1, 2008 #1
    John McCain's timing to announce Sarah Palin as his VP running mate was definitely successful at quickly turning the media's attention to his campaign after the big Barack Obama acceptance speech at the closing of the DNC. But the question that came up most was "Who is Sarah Palin?". Was she the best choice for the position? Will she help or hurt his campaign?

    What do you think?
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Sep 1, 2008 #2
    I think their line of reasoning was that Sarah Palin is a woman, therefore other women will vote for her.

    Honestly, it's what you'd expect from a person who thinks the solution to any international conflict is to use military power.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 1, 2008
  4. Sep 1, 2008 #3
    I think she was a very poor pick, that will destroy MCcain's chances. I recall Evo's words that she can be a president if something happens to MCcain - he has a long history of medical problems- and just that thought will make people even more disregard the republican nominees.
     
  5. Sep 2, 2008 #4

    Gokul43201

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    McCain has already undercut the experience message.

    This may hurt his anti-earmark message:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26504638/

    I remember when Obama disclosed his earmarks, he was blasted by the Repubs. He had secured about $75 million a year for his home state of Illinois, with a population of about 13 million people. By comparison, Wasilla's population is about 2000 times smaller. On the positive side this shows that, in this case, Palin was really good at what she did.
     
  6. Sep 2, 2008 #5

    Gokul43201

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Since she became Governor though, Palin has definitely been way, way more responsible with money. So the McCain-Palin campaign will have to make that the focus of her story.

    ...and continue playing the "woman" card! It's amazing that Obama gets blasted for playing the race card but here's the M-P campaign blatantly playing the sex card, again and again...
     
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2008
  7. Sep 2, 2008 #6
    It is easy to be responsible with money when you got lots of it. Alaska has been swimming in money the last two years from the high price of oil.

    Basically, she is a light weight. She has never been tested politically.

    Here are some FAKE bikini pics of Palin, pretty funny what people can do with photo shop these days:

    http://inday-stories.blogspot.com/2008/09/more-sarah-palin-bikini-pictures-lookin.html
     
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2008
  8. Sep 3, 2008 #7

    BobG

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

  9. Sep 5, 2008 #8

    Ivan Seeking

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Wow!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Ax2nTWhVM&NR=1

    At about the 6:30 mark, she even states that believers [like her] gain divine knowledge of future events. Does this suggest that she would govern according to a voice in her head, as I suspect that Bush has done?

    She actually believes that she can see the future; and she is teaching kids that they can do the same?

    Note also that she does this with her own little spin on scripture. This isn't even coming from the Bible, but she throws it in as if it did.
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2008
  10. Sep 5, 2008 #9

    cristo

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor

  11. Sep 5, 2008 #10

    LowlyPion

    User Avatar
    Homework Helper

    To be fair she is reading from Ephesians 1:17. She uses it in this context as an invocation to charge up these young people to go out in the world. I'd say it's arguable that she is suggesting that she gets any divine visions. Though if one came to her I'd say she is by faith apparently predisposed to think it would come from God.
     
  12. Sep 5, 2008 #11

    Ivan Seeking

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    She adds her own interpretation to the gospel. The statement from the gospel was with respect to revelations about [the existence of] God, not knowledge of the future.

    I've attended quite a few different churches, but that one is a first for me.

    This may be a part of this particular church's belief, but if she really thinks that she can see the future, that is politically hyper-significant.
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2008
  13. Sep 6, 2008 #12

    Ivan Seeking

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    I have to chuckle when I hear the Rep spin masters, and McCain for that matter, and Palin in particular, when they talk about Obama being "ordained", "parting the waters" blah blah blah. In fact it is downright comedy when one considers that the Republicans feverishly chanting "Sarah" have had all of two weeks to get to know her, and that McCain apparently picked her at the last moment [probably out of desperation].

    Obama has been under intense scrutiny since late 2006. He survived nineteen debates in a field of pros, and countless interviews. So in light of this, it is difficult to understand the ordained bit coming from someone who apparently believes that she can see the future through divine intervention.

    What is really sad is that she won't have to pass the Russert test. I would have enjoyed that.
     
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2008
  14. Sep 6, 2008 #13
    I was hearing Rush sarcasticly refer to Obama as 'the messiah' and couldn't figure out why until he played a clip of Obama's victory speech that was admittedly rather over the top. I'm not sure just how out of context it was taken but it easily came off as Obama saying the world would be healed if he were elected president.
     
  15. Sep 6, 2008 #14

    Ivan Seeking

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Maybe you could be more specific? Rush is hardly a credible source.

    And you have to admit, if anyone has been annointed without reason, it is Palin. It will be a challenge for the media to present even a partial portrate of her before the election. In effect, McCain is asking the US to trust a small-time governer who is a complete unknown, as President. How is this not irresponsible? If he wants to play craps, he should go to Vegas.
     
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2008
  16. Sep 6, 2008 #15

    Ivan Seeking

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Hard to imagine, but it would appear that even Bush is left of Palin on the environment.

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/157319
     
  17. Sep 6, 2008 #16

    LowlyPion

    User Avatar
    Homework Helper

    What is most notable about her qualification to assume the office at this point is that she is apparently on an extraordinarily short leash.

    They aren't nearly ready for her to have an actual Press Conference.

    They must be working overtime on preparing for a VP debate where I can imagine they can only hope that cute, smarmy remarks can pass as thoughtful policy positions.
     
  18. Sep 8, 2008 #17

    Ivan Seeking

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    One thing that I should add for those who have no real exposure to religion. Most Christian churches teach that one can see God acting in their life, and many people believe is true, in subtle ways. And the notion of end-times prophesy is accepted by many churches. But even the Bible specifically warns against fortune telling and false prophets. Palin was saying that one can pray and see future events as they relate to today. In my experience, this is very unusual. Personally I think its' freaky.

    Now this is particularly interesting since she apparently claims no real doctrine. According to the latest reports that I've seen, she attends a number of churches, and considers an evangelical, "non-denominational" church her home.
     
  19. Sep 8, 2008 #18

    Astronuc

    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    I heard today on the local public radio station that her Republican handlers are (admittedly) keeping her away from any journalist who would ask tough questions. Talk about evasion. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Sep 8, 2008 #19

    GCT

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    McCain's ingenious plan with Sarah Palin

    Has Obama appeared on TV lately? Sarah Palin is everywhere. If Obama's votes depended on his celebrity TV status this is going bad for him; this pick by McCain is going good and in hindsight it seems to have been to

    -Portray Obama as a distant politician ; when he's not on TV being liked by all he becomes an obscure character.

    -Portray Obama as condenscending i.e. his polished personality versus Palin's " too naive to know anything yet a humble, earnest, and grounded " . It seems that some Americans sense that the Obama and Biden case is self righteous and glorified as compared to the real quintessentially American issues .... teenage pregnancy. Dispell the Obama historic grandeur with the genuinely religious concern of parent's everywhere over the issue of rampant fornication amongst our teens.
     
  21. Sep 8, 2008 #20

    Ivan Seeking

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Re: McCain's ingenious plan with Sarah Palin

    Pick a nobody who nobody really knows, including McCain, to potentially run the country in as little as 100 days. Brilliant!

    This is the Palin honeymoon. Give it a week.
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?



Similar Discussions: Sarah Palin Good Choice for VP?
  1. Sarah Palin (Replies: 17)

Loading...