Scaled" & "Inverted" in Picoammeter Analog Voltage Output

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the meanings of "scaled" and "inverted" in the context of a picoammeter's analog voltage output, particularly regarding its connection to an oscilloscope. Participants explore the implications of these terms for interpreting current measurements and the challenges faced when measuring very small currents.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that "scaled" refers to the picoammeter adjusting the current measurement range (e.g., 2mA to -2mA) to a corresponding voltage output range (e.g., 2V to -2V).
  • Another participant recalls that in analog instruments, the output voltage represented the ends of the selected scale, implying that the scaling is consistent with traditional analog practices.
  • A participant explains that "inverted" means the polarity of the voltage output is reversed, indicating that a positive voltage corresponds to a negative current, which may be necessary for oscilloscope compatibility.
  • One participant notes the challenge of measuring very small currents (e.g., 3 pA) with the picoammeter's output, suggesting the need for an amplifier to detect fluctuations accurately.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the scaling allows for accurate interpretation of the voltage output in relation to the actual current being measured.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the meanings of "scaled" and "inverted" in this context, but there is no consensus on the implications for measuring very small currents or the necessity of additional equipment like amplifiers.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the exact scaling factors and how they relate to specific current measurements, indicating a potential dependence on the settings of the picoammeter and oscilloscope.

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Meaning of "Scaled" and "Inverted" in context of picoammeter analog voltage output

I'm trying connect a picoammeter to an oscilloscope, and I noticed that its analog voltage output was described as "scaled" and "inverted". I'm just curious as to what that means about the oscilloscope is going to "see".

Very new to electronics, and cursory google searched yielded many pages using the adjectives "scaled" and "inverted" but all with the assumption that I knew what they meant.

What do they mean? What is the signal scaled to, and what does the fact that it's inverted imply about how its processing the current measurements...?

If that question even makes sense.

Thanks much.
 
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Well, I think I figured out the "scaled" part. The ammeter scales the current measured in the range of 2mA to -2mA to the voltage output range of 2V to -2V.

I think.

It's not particularly helpful for me because I'm measuring a current of about 3 pA and looking for fluctuations on that scale, so the output would vary by a part in a billion... Guess I'll have to use an amplifier.
 


i thinnk it's scaled to represent whatever scale is selected.

I hail from the days of analog
where the instrument had a nice big analog meter driven by an amplifier
and a rotary switch to select the scale.
In those days the analog output represented the ends of the meter
for whichever scale you had selected.

so on a 2 pa scale , 2v would be 2 picoamps
and on a 2 amp scale 2v would be 2 amps

I'd be astonished if the digital meter were different
that's the whole reason for the analog output so you can record an expanded scale
and surely the range information is on one of the ports, rs232 or ieee488

read your manual carefully.
 


Thanks Jim, and yeah, you're right. It does scale with the scale, so to speak.
 


Scaled in this context means that the voltage output of the picoammeter has been adjusted or calibrated to a specific scale. This could be in terms of voltage, current, or another unit of measurement. This is important because it allows the user to accurately interpret the voltage output and relate it to the actual current being measured.

Inverted means that the polarity of the voltage output has been reversed. This means that a positive voltage output will correspond to a negative current and vice versa. This is commonly done to match the input requirements of the oscilloscope, as most oscilloscopes have a default setting for positive voltages.

In terms of how this affects the processing of current measurements, it simply means that the picoammeter is converting the current into a voltage output that is scaled and inverted for easier interpretation by the user. This allows for more precise and accurate measurements to be taken and analyzed on the oscilloscope.
 

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