Schrodinger ground state wave function

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The discussion focuses on finding the ground state wave function for a one-dimensional particle in a box with potential V=0 between -a/2 and a/2 and V=∞ outside this region. The time-independent Schrödinger equation simplifies to a second-order differential equation, leading to solutions of the form A*cos(kx) and B*sin(kx) within the box. The conversation emphasizes the need to consider boundary conditions at the edges of the box, where the wave function must be continuous and equal to zero at x = ±a/2 due to the infinite potential outside. Participants discuss the implications of the infinite potential on the wave function's behavior and the necessity for the wave function to vanish as x approaches infinity. Ultimately, the goal is to construct a single wave function that satisfies the conditions across all regions.
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Homework Statement



Find the ground state wave function for the 1-D particle in a box if V = 0 between x = -a/2 and x = a/2 and V = \infty

Homework Equations



I would guess -- Schrodinger's time-independent equation?
\frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}+V\left(x\right)\psi=E\psi

The Attempt at a Solution



V\left(x\right)=0 for -\frac{a}{2}\leq x\leq\frac{a}{2}

So then, we don't need the V(x) term in the equation, and it simplifies to \frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}=E\psi

So now I move the nasty stuff over to the right side:

E\psi+\frac{\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}=0

\frac{2mE}{\hbar^{2}}\psi+\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}=0

Now I use a trick from my book:

k^{2}=\frac{2mE}{\hbar^{2}}

\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}+k^{2}\psi=0

And now there's 2 solutions to this differential equation: \psi=A\cos\left(kx\right) and \psi=A\sin\left(kx\right). Where do i go from here? I am quite lost unfortunately :frown:
 
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Hi wrongusername,

wrongusername said:

Homework Statement



Find the ground state wave function for the 1-D particle in a box if V = 0 between x = -a/2 and x = a/2 and V = \infty

Homework Equations



I would guess -- Schrodinger's time-independent equation?
\frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}+V\left(x\right)\psi=E\psi

The Attempt at a Solution



V\left(x\right)=0 for -\frac{a}{2}\leq x\leq\frac{a}{2}

So then, we don't need the V(x) term in the equation, and it simplifies to \frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}=E\psi

So now I move the nasty stuff over to the right side:

E\psi+\frac{\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}=0

\frac{2mE}{\hbar^{2}}\psi+\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}=0

Now I use a trick from my book:

k^{2}=\frac{2mE}{\hbar^{2}}

\frac{d^{2}\psi}{dx^{2}}+k^{2}\psi=0

And now there's 2 solutions to this differential equation: \psi=A\cos\left(kx\right) and \psi=A\sin\left(kx\right). Where do i go from here? I am quite lost unfortunately :frown:

The general solution for the part from -a/2 to a/2 will be a linear combination of those two solutions (A cos(kx) + B sin(kx) ).

So you've found the solution in that area, now what is the solution for those places outside the box? And what has to be true about these three separate solutions?
 
alphysicist said:
Hi wrongusername,



The general solution for the part from -a/2 to a/2 will be a linear combination of those two solutions (A cos(kx) + B sin(kx) ).

So you've found the solution in that area, now what is the solution for those places outside the box? And what has to be true about these three separate solutions?

Thank you for the reply!

Well, V\left(x\right)=\infty for all x not between -a/2 and a/2, though if I plug infinity in for V in the Schrodinger equation, I would get \infty=E\psi?

Wouldn't it be two solutions since, like you said, the two solutions would be combined into one general solution with a linear combination?

All three solutions would have to reflect the ground state energy? I'm not sure how though...
 
wrongusername said:
Thank you for the reply!

Well, V\left(x\right)=\infty for all x not between -a/2 and a/2, though if I plug infinity in for V in the Schrodinger equation, I would get \infty=E\psi?

No, I don't think that would be quite helpful here. Instead, leave it as V, but keep in mind that V>E. Find the solution (using your trick to get the equation into a similar form as before), and then let V go to infinity.

Remember that here we want the wavefunction to go to zero as x goes to plus or minus infinity.

Wouldn't it be two solutions since, like you said, the two solutions would be combined into one general solution with a linear combination?

Every region will have two mathematical solutions; but boundary conditions will set some constants equal to zero, force values for others, etc.

All three solutions would have to reflect the ground state energy? I'm not sure how though...

There is one wavefunction they are looking here, that is made up of the solutions you found in each region. But look at, for example, the point x=a/2. There the solution from the inner region (-a/2 < x < a/2) is meeting the solution from the right side (x > a/2). How do they go together? What property of the wavefunction is used at a/2?
 
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