Second Derivative of 4(x^2-2)^3: Apply Chain Rule for f(x)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the second derivative of the function f(x) = 4(x^2 - 2)^3, with a focus on applying the chain rule and product rule correctly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the function using the chain rule and expresses confusion after reaching the first derivative. Some participants question the correctness of the approach and suggest the need for the product rule when differentiating the first derivative.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the application of the product rule and chain rule, with some providing feedback on the original poster's attempts. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method yet, as multiple interpretations of the differentiation process are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of confusion regarding the application of the product rule and chain rule, as well as a caution against using variable notation that may lead to ambiguity in multiplication.

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Find second derivative!

Homework Statement


f(x)=4(x^2-2)^3

Homework Equations


Chain rule??

The Attempt at a Solution


f'=12(x^2-2)^2(2x)
=24x(x^2-2)^2

f''=2(24x)(x^2-2)(2x)
96x^2(x^2-2)
After this, I got lost...
 
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Looks good to me.
 


Really? I even went further & distributed and got: 96x^4-192x^2 ... & still got it wrong!
 


You'll need to use the product rule when you go from f' to f''. f' is a product of the two functions (24x) and (x^2-2)^2.
 


Dick said:
You'll need to use the product rule when you go from f' to f''. f' is a product of the two functions (24x) and (x^2-2)^2.

Ok.. so would I set it up like this>> (24)[2(x^2-2)]+(x^2-2)^2(24) ??
 


ForeverMo said:
Ok.. so would I set it up like this>> (24)[2(x^2-2)]+(x^2-2)^2(24) ??

No. That's not right. Review how the product rule works and try it again.
 


No, that is also wrong. Please show exactly how you are trying to do this.
 


Product rule: d/dx[fs]=fs'+sf'
24x×2(x^2-2)+(x^2-2)^2×24
Is that the right way?
 


ForeverMo said:
Product rule: d/dx[fs]=fs'+sf'
24x×2(x^2-2)+(x^2-2)^2×24
Is that the right way?
No, that isn't right either. You also have to use the chain rule when you differentiate (x2 - 2)2.

It's NOT a good idea to use x for multiplication, especially when x is the variable. You've made it slightly easier by bolding some of the variables. In calculus, we generally don't use x for multiplication.
 

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