Second Order Differential Initial Value Problem

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The discussion revolves around a second-order differential initial value problem involving the equation y'' + 4y' + 6y, with initial conditions y(0) = 2 and y'(0) = 4. Participants are exploring the general solution and the implications of the initial conditions on the constants involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the auxiliary equation and its roots, leading to a general solution involving exponential and trigonometric functions. There is consideration of how to derive constants from the initial conditions, with some expressing uncertainty about solving the resulting system of equations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing insights about the nature of the solutions and the relationship between the general solution and the initial conditions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to solve a system of equations to find specific constants, but there is no explicit consensus on the method to achieve this.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of solving the system of equations without computational tools and mention the potential for infinitely many solutions arising from the general case, which is constrained by the initial conditions.

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Homework Statement



y''+4y'+6y
y(0) = 2; y'(0) = 4

Homework Equations



\alpha ± β = e^{x\alpha}(cosβx + sinβx)



The Attempt at a Solution



Auxilary equation is r^2+4r+6, which solves for -2 ± i

I get the general solution:

e^{-2x}(c1cosx + c2sinx)

y' = -2e^{-2x}(c1cosx + c2sinx) + e^{2x}(c2cosx - c1sinx)

= c1(cosx-sinx) + c2(cosx+sinx) = 4

I also have:

c1 + c2 = 2 from the initial value.

I now have a system of equations, but don't really know how to solve it without using a computer.
 
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No no, the system of equations produces infinitely many solutions, but the initial value given gives a specific solution curve when you solve for the constants.
 
That's what I was thinking, but I just can't think of how to solve for the constants without using a system of equations at the moment. I know how to solve it when \alpha = 0, but not sure how to do this.
 
danielu13 said:
That's what I was thinking, but I just can't think of how to solve for the constants without using a system of equations at the moment. I know how to solve it when \alpha = 0, but not sure how to do this.

You have two equations. You get one from solving the initial value problem for y and one for solving the initial value problem for y'.

They will give you a system of 2 equations in 2 unknowns c1, c2.

Solving for both unknowns will give you the particular equation for y which will satisfy your initial values.
 
Oh, I completely overlooked inputting the x values into the equations for some reason. Thanks though!
 

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