Separable D.E., Partial Fractions

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The discussion revolves around solving a separable differential equation given by \(\frac{dP}{dt}=P-P^{2}\). Participants explore the use of partial fractions in the integration process and express challenges in finding relevant examples or guidance.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss rewriting the differential equation and express uncertainty about the integration process. There are attempts to separate variables and integrate, with some questioning their understanding of the derivative operator.

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Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of partial fractions for integration. Participants are actively engaging with the problem, and there is a sense of progress as one participant acknowledges the assistance received.

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Participants mention difficulties stemming from a lack of clarity in their understanding of differential equations and integration techniques. There is an emphasis on needing hints rather than complete solutions.

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Homework Statement



\frac{dP}{dt}=P-P^{2}

It seems that Partial Fractions should be used to solve this D.E., but I cannot find an example to go by.

I even tried to rewrite the equation as:

\frac{d}{dx}Y\left(x\right)=Y\left(x\right)-Y\left(x\right)^{2}

But, that isn't helping me either...

Anyone?
 
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I know this may seem so obvious. And, in fact a great deal of my trouble in D.E. so far can be summarized by my "not seeing the forest for the trees".

So, any hint would probably get me going...
 
This is what I have done so far...

P\left(t\right)\frac{d}{dt}=P\left(t\right)-P\left(t\right)^{2}

P\left(t\right)\frac{d}{dt}=P\left(t\right)\left(1-P\left(t\right)\right)

\frac{1}{P\left(t\right)}dP=\left(1-P\left(t\right)\right)dt

\int \frac{1}{P\left(t\right)}dP= \int dt - \int P\left(t\right) dt

\ln \left(P\left(t\right)\right) = t - \int P\left(t\right) dt
 
EtherealMonkey said:
This is what I have done so far...

P\left(t\right)\frac{d}{dt}=P\left(t\right)-P\left(t\right)^{2}

P\left(t\right)\frac{d}{dt}=P\left(t\right)\left(1-P\left(t\right)\right)

\frac{1}{P\left(t\right)}dP=\left(1-P\left(t\right)\right)dt

\int \frac{1}{P\left(t\right)}dP= \int dt - \int P\left(t\right) dt

\ln \left(P\left(t\right)\right) = t - \int P\left(t\right) dt

I see you were able to get the 'y' in your user name!

One comment: you're still using the derivative operator incorrectly: d/dt requires something to the right of it, since it means to take the derivative with respect to t of something.

Now, let's look at your DE.
\frac{dP}{dt}~=~P~-P^2
After separation, you get this.
\frac{dP}{P - P^2}~=~dt

Now integrate both sides. You will want to use partial fractions for the integral on the left side, and should get two terms involving ln|P| and ln|1 - P|. Don't forget you'll need the constant of integration.

Is that enough to get you started?
 
Mark44 said:
Is that enough to get you started?

Yes, thank you very much!

Sorry for the late response, I just got on campus.

Now, got to go take a test, wish me much success!

Thanks again Mark!
 

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