Separate variables schrodinger equation

In summary, the problem asks to show that the time independent Schrodinger equation can be solved by separating variables and writing the solution as a product state. The potential in the problem is a 2D infinite square well, meaning that it is zero within the boundaries and infinite outside. However, the potential cannot be neglected as it affects the wavefunction inside and outside the well.
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Homework Statement


[2 Dimensional infinite square well]
Show that you can separate variables such that the solution to the time independent schrodinger equation, ## \hat{H} \psi (x,y) = E \psi (x,y) ## can be written as a product state ## \psi (x,y) = \phi (x) \chi (y) ## where ## \phi (x)## is a function of only the x coordinate and ##\chi(y)## is a function of only the y coordinate.

Homework Equations



[tex]\hat{H} = -\dfrac{\hbar^2}{2m} \left( \dfrac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2} + \dfrac{\partial^2}{\partial y^2} \right) + V(x,y)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



So... putting in ## \psi (x,y) = \phi (x) \chi (y) ## I'll get:

[tex]\hat{H} \phi (x) \chi (y) = -\dfrac{\hbar^2}{2m} \left( \dfrac{\partial^2 \phi (x)}{\partial x^2} \chi (y) + \dfrac{\partial^2 \chi (y)}{\partial y^2} \phi (x) \right) + V(x,y) \phi (x) \chi (y) [/tex]

And then dividing both sides by ## \phi (x) \chi (y) ## I'll get:

[tex]\hat{H} = -\dfrac{\hbar^2}{2m} \left( \dfrac{1}{\phi (x)} \dfrac{\partial^2 \phi (x)}{\partial x^2} + \dfrac{1}{\chi (y)} \dfrac{\partial^2 \chi (y)}{\partial y^2} \right) + V(x,y)[/tex]

And then... I don't really know where to go from here. I don't get what I'm supposed to do next.
 
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What is the explicit form of V(x, y)? Can it be written as a sum X(x) + Y(y)?
 
  • #3
For a 2D potential in the infinite square well:

$$
V(x,y) =
\begin{cases}
0, & \text{if } 0 \le x \le a & \text{and} & 0 \le y \le b \\
\infty, & \text{otherwise}
\end{cases}
$$

Does that mean V(x,y) can be neglected?

I just don't get what it's asking me to do.
 
  • #4
Cogswell said:
For a 2D potential in the infinite square well:

$$
V(x,y) =
\begin{cases}
0, & \text{if } 0 \le x \le a & \text{and} & 0 \le y \le b \\
\infty, & \text{otherwise}
\end{cases}
$$

Does that mean V(x,y) can be neglected?

I just don't get what it's asking me to do.

V=0 in the potential well, if 0≤x≤a and 0≤y≤b, and infinite outside. Solve the equation inside the well with V=0, and outside where V is infinite. Is it possible that the wavefunction of a particle with finite energy differs from zero when the potential is infinite?

ehild
 
  • #5
Cogswell said:
For a 2D potential in the infinite square well:

$$
V(x,y) =
\begin{cases}
0, & \text{if } 0 \le x \le a & \text{and} & 0 \le y \le b \\
\infty, & \text{otherwise}
\end{cases}
$$

Does that mean V(x,y) can be neglected?

Of course not. Think about $$
V_c(z) =
\begin{cases}
0, & \text{if } 0 \le z \le c\\
\infty, & \text{otherwise}
\end{cases}
$$
 

What is the Schrodinger equation and what does it describe?

The Schrodinger equation is a mathematical equation that describes the behavior of quantum particles, such as electrons, in a given system. It is a fundamental equation in quantum mechanics and is used to calculate the probability of finding a particle in a particular state.

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Separating variables in the Schrodinger equation means to write the equation in a form where each variable only appears on one side of the equation. This allows us to solve the equation by finding the solutions to each variable separately.

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Separating variables in the Schrodinger equation allows us to solve for the wave function, which is a fundamental concept in quantum mechanics. The wave function describes the probability of finding a particle in a given state, and by solving the Schrodinger equation, we can determine the behavior of quantum particles in a system.

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