Set of 2015 Consecutive Positive Ints with 15 Primes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of whether there exists a set of 2015 consecutive positive integers that contains exactly 15 prime numbers. Participants explore the properties of such sets and the behavior of the prime count as the starting integer varies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define a set of consecutive integers, denoted as $S_n$, starting from a natural number $n$, and introduce a function $f(S_n)$ to represent the number of primes in that set.
  • It is noted that transitioning from $S_n$ to $S_{n+1}$ involves removing the integer $n$ and adding $n+2015$, with the prime count changing based on the primality of these two numbers.
  • One participant claims that for $n=1$, the number of primes in $S_1$ exceeds 15, estimating it to be 305.
  • Another participant states that for $n = 2016! + 2$, the set $S_n$ contains no primes, as each integer in that set is divisible by its index.
  • It is argued that as $n$ increases from 1 to $2016! + 2$, the function $f(S_n)$ must transition from 305 to 0, suggesting that it must take the value 15 at some point due to the nature of the changes in prime count.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a set of 2015 consecutive integers with exactly 15 primes exists, as the discussion includes various claims and reasoning without definitive resolution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion relies on assumptions about the distribution of prime numbers and the behavior of the function $f(S_n)$, which may not be universally applicable. The transition of prime counts is described without resolving the underlying mathematical complexities.

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Is there a set of $2015$ consecutive positive integers containing exactly $15$ prime numbers?
 
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lfdahl said:
Is there a set of $2015$ consecutive positive integers containing exactly $15$ prime numbers?
[sp]For each natural number $n$ let $S_n$ be the set of $2015$ consecutive positive integers starting at $n$, and let $f(S_n)$ be the number of primes in that set.

To get from $S_n$ to $S_{n+1}$, you have to remove $n$ from $S_n$, and add $n+2015$ to the set. If either both or neither of those two numbers are prime then $f(S_{n+1}) = f(S_n)$. If one of them is prime and the other is not then $f(S_{n+1})$ and $f(S_n)$ will differ by $1$.

When $n=1$, $S_1$ is greater than $15$ (in fact, I think that $S_1 = 305$). When $n = 2016! + 2$, $S_n = 0$, because $2016! + k$ is divisible by $k$ whenever $2\leqslant k \leqslant 2016$.

So as $n$ increases from $1$ to $2016! + 2$, $f(S_n)$ changes by at most $1$ at each step, and has to go from $305$ to $0$. By a sort of integer-valued "intermediate value theorem", it must take the value $15$ at some point.[/sp]
 
Opalg said:
[sp]For each natural number $n$ let $S_n$ be the set of $2015$ consecutive positive integers starting at $n$, and let $f(S_n)$ be the number of primes in that set.

To get from $S_n$ to $S_{n+1}$, you have to remove $n$ from $S_n$, and add $n+2015$ to the set. If either both or neither of those two numbers are prime then $f(S_{n+1}) = f(S_n)$. If one of them is prime and the other is not then $f(S_{n+1})$ and $f(S_n)$ will differ by $1$.

When $n=1$, $S_1$ is greater than $15$ (in fact, I think that $S_1 = 305$). When $n = 2016! + 2$, $S_n = 0$, because $2016! + k$ is divisible by $k$ whenever $2\leqslant k \leqslant 2016$.

So as $n$ increases from $1$ to $2016! + 2$, $f(S_n)$ changes by at most $1$ at each step, and has to go from $305$ to $0$. By a sort of integer-valued "intermediate value theorem", it must take the value $15$ at some point.[/sp]

Thankyou so much, Opalg, for your excellent solution and participation!
 
lfdahl said:
Thankyou so much, Opalg, for your excellent solution and participation!

Yes, we can always count on Chris (Opalg) to post a robust, lucid solution. (Yes)
 

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