Engineering Set time delay for a comparator Op-amp circuit

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The discussion focuses on designing a comparator op-amp circuit that incorporates a SPST switch and a 9-volt battery, aiming for a 10-second delay to turn on an LED and a 4-second delay to turn it off. The user is attempting to achieve this using capacitors and resistors to create the necessary time constants but is struggling with the configuration. A suggestion is made to use an RC circuit to determine the timing, emphasizing the need to configure the RC values correctly to meet the delay requirements. The user eventually resolves the issue after identifying a floating supply rail as the problem. The conversation highlights the importance of proper circuit configuration and debugging in achieving desired outcomes.
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Homework Statement


[See attached diagram]

I'm trying to design a circuit that connects to the input terminals of the noninverting input of this comparator circuit such that:
-The input to my circuit consists of a SPST switch and a 9 volt battery
-When the switch is thrown on, there would be a 10 second delay before the LED turns on
-When the switch is thrown off, there would be a 4 second delay before the LED turns off

Homework Equations



Op-amps, RC circuit time constants

The Attempt at a Solution



So obviously I'm trying to use some configuration of capacitors and resistors to achieve the proper time constant to fit the specifications of the question. However, I've been messing around with this for awhile now to no avail.

The noninverting input can be set to anything between 1.5-9V.

I think it needs to involve a 330uF capacitor.

I'm not sure how I'm going to achieve two different times using the same component values (and thus same time constant?)

I tried connecting a 28k resistor in series with the voltage source (& switch) to the non-inverting input, with the 330uF capacitor connected between the input and ground, and the inverting voltage set to 6.1v but this configuration of components is not giving me the desired response.
 

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Marshillboy said:

Homework Statement


[See attached diagram]

I'm trying to design a circuit that connects to the input terminals of the noninverting input of this comparator circuit such that:
-The input to my circuit consists of a SPST switch and a 9 volt battery
-When the switch is thrown on, there would be a 10 second delay before the LED turns on
-When the switch is thrown off, there would be a 4 second delay before the LED turns off

Homework Equations



Op-amps, RC circuit time constants

The Attempt at a Solution



So obviously I'm trying to use some configuration of capacitors and resistors to achieve the proper time constant to fit the specifications of the question. However, I've been messing around with this for awhile now to no avail.

The noninverting input can be set to anything between 1.5-9V.

I think it needs to involve a 330uF capacitor.

I'm not sure how I'm going to achieve two different times using the same component values (and thus same time constant?)

I tried connecting a 28k resistor in series with the voltage source (& switch) to the non-inverting input, with the 330uF capacitor connected between the input and ground, and the inverting voltage set to 6.1v but this configuration of components is not giving me the desired response.

A simple RC circuit like the one below should get the job done.

rc1.gif


The voltage Vc across the capacitor would sit across the Vin terminals.

Simply configure the RC combination such that after 5\tau you've obtained the desired delay.

\tau = RC

You need to determine when the output of your comparator is going to be nonzero. (i.e. when the voltage at the positive input terminal exceeds the voltage at the negative input terminal)

You should be able to come up with a similar type of arrangement for the shut off delay, except that when the power is removed, another capacitor will dump previously stored charge across the diode and resistor combination such that the diode is turned off after 4 seconds.
 
I got it. After many solid hours debugging, turns out one of the supply rails was floating. Oops.

Thanks for the help!
 
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