Setup for the saturn effects of Kristian Birkeland's experiments

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The discussion centers on reproducing Kristian Birkeland's experiments related to the "Saturn effect" using a terrella apparatus. Participants express frustration over the lack of available resources and credible information on the topic, with one user noting that searches yield mostly irrelevant results. Birkeland's original experiments involved creating a magnetic field with a solid sphere and applying a voltage to simulate planetary effects, including auroras and Saturn's rings. Despite the interest, no one has successfully replicated these effects, and the concept remains obscure. The conversation highlights a desire for educated discourse on the subject while addressing concerns about speculative contributions.
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Hi,

Has anyone in recent times reproduced the experiments of Kristian Birkeland, WRT to his Saturn effect using his terrella?

If so what were the conditions?

Adam
 
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Googling for this "Saturn effect" reveals only this thread. Do you have a source for this?
 
russ_watters said:
Googling for this "Saturn effect" reveals only this thread. Do you have a source for this?


You're lucky then... How did you avoid getting 93 bazillion results from the astrology/nutcase sites?

But googling for "saturn effect terrella" brought up some useful stuff starting with http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/mwg-internal/de5fs23hu73ds/progress?id=lvDA410z4w
 
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Actually, I searched "Kristian Birkeland saturn effect" (without the quotes). The first entry was this thread. The second was the wiki article on Birkeland and "saturn effect" does not appear anywhere in it. Adding quotes around "saturn effect" returns a bunch of links to this thread via phys.org.
 
i had submitted these question(other threads) to this forum hoping to get some sort of educated discussion and sanity some ideas. if you're happy with accepted ideas of science and tech, and afraid of sailing too close to the edge of the world, i politely ask you not add to this thread.
 
now, as for the subject of this thread, reading birkeland's report suggests that fitting a solid sphere with a solenoid to emulate a planet's mag field, then he applies a voltage difference across the sphere. he starts to see strange effects that simulate the Earth aurora and under different conditions, simulates saturns rings.

this kind of stuff is more familiar in the mhd comunity, but no-one has reproduced the effects.

i take it this effect is not well known, but if anyone has knowledge of a working setup I am interested in hearing about it.
 
motorman said:
i had submitted these question(other threads) to this forum hoping to get some sort of educated discussion and sanity some ideas.
That's nice. So does "the saturn effect" exist anywhere but in your head? Did you make it up? All I'm asking is for you to explain and source the topic of discussion so people know what the subject is about! You won't get any useful responses if people don't know what you are talking about!
if you're happy with accepted ideas of science and tech, and afraid of sailing too close to the edge of the world, i politely ask you not add to this thread.
I'm a moderator here. It is my job to ensure discussions follow forum rules.
reading birkeland's report
Do you have a link to a copy of this report?
 
Motorman, with all due respect, it is not your place to say who can and cannot participate here.

Also, I would encourage you to read the PF Rules on Overly Specualtive Posts. Soon.
 
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