Shaft Encoder with Pulleys/spring/spool

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This discussion focuses on designing a system to measure the instantaneous velocity of a swimmer using a shaft encoder and pulleys. The proposed setup includes a nylon rope, a spool, and a constant force spring to maintain consistent tension in the line, ideally around 1 lbf. The swimmer's velocity fluctuates between 0 m/s and 3 m/s, with expected fluctuations up to 10 Hz. The user considers using a baitcasting fishing reel as a spooling mechanism, leveraging its drag system to manage line tension effectively.

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Alright I am trying to measure the "instantaneous" velocity of a swimmer at around 400Hz.

I plan on attaching the swimmer to some nylon rope or something similar and having the rope go into a "box" that will use pulleys, a wheel mounted to a shaft and shaft encoder that will rotate freely between two bearings, and a spool that will feed the line.

My big problem is maintaining tension in the line that is fairly constant and negligible (probably 1lbf or less would be nice), but consistency is most important for testing.

I have found out there are constant force springs out there. So I figure I could attach a pulley to one of those to maintain tension on the line, but with constant tension on the line(which is needed) the line will always be unspooling from the spool faster than it needs to be...

The swimmer's velocity will fluctuate between around 3m/s and 0m/s at the most extreme situation and velocity fluctuations can be expected up to around 10Hz.

Any ideas on how I can make this work?

Here is what I have so far
Velocity_Measurement_System.jpg


Also, I tried looking up belt tensioners for car but couldn't find anything to show how they work. Could a belt tensioner help me?
 
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Just searching around google, would a fishing reel work as my spooling mechanism? It has a reel already attached and perhaps the drag can be used to maintain tension and once the tension is achieved it let's out line and if too much tension persists to build up perhaps the constant force spring could be used to prevent excess tension while the line unspools from the fishing reel.

So maybe the combination of a fishing wheel w/drag and a constant force spring?

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So here is a reel that looks good. It seems like a baitcasting reel would be best and here is a cheap one I found http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_...003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=089V002609844000P

Not sure about the open faced and closed faced reels though. I suppose I ought to set up the measurement wheel/shaft and see how the fishing reel works in the device and I can always add constant force spring(s) to help keep the tension constant.

The only possible problem I can see is the fishing reel requiring too much tension or providing inconsistent tension with it's drag setting.
 
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I have encountered a vertically oriented hydraulic cylinder that is designed to actuate and slice heavy cabling into sections with a blade. The cylinder is quite small (around 1.5 inches in diameter) and has an equally small stroke. The cylinder is single acting (i.e. it is pressurized from the bottom, and vented to atmosphere with a spring return, roughly 200lbs of force on the spring). The system operates at roughly 2500 psi. Interestingly, the cylinder has a pin that passes through its...

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