Shotgun Licence Refused: 25 Years of Good Behaviour

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A user discusses the refusal of their shotgun license renewal in the UK, citing a past incident from 25 years ago where they accidentally broke a policeman's finger. Despite five years of responsible ownership and good behavior, the law has deemed them unfit to retain the firearm. The conversation touches on the perceived unfairness of gun control laws, especially regarding past offenses, and the irony of political figures with questionable pasts holding positions of power. Suggestions for appealing the decision and seeking support from friends or local gun clubs are made, alongside humorous remarks about fast food and politics. The overall sentiment reflects frustration with the legal system's handling of gun ownership and a desire for more lenient regulations based on long-term good behavior.
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I have had a shot gun for five years, used for clay shooting, but the law has
(reviewed) my case and refused a renewal, on the strenght of things i did in
the past, so now i have to hand in my beloved s57, i would have thought that 25yrs of good behaviour would have been good enough to show a reformed character.:cry:
 
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Move to America, you can borrow my M16 if you'd like (I wish, TOO Expensive!). :smile:
 
You have to actually hand in your shotgun? Do you live in Massachusettes? :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
wolram said:
I have had a shot gun for five years, used for clay shooting, but the law has
(reviewed) my case and refused a renewal, on the strenght of things i did in
the past, so now i have to hand in my beloved s57, i would have thought that 25yrs of good behaviour would have been good enough to show a reformed character.:cry:
Hopefully you can appeal. In the meantime, do you have a trusted friend to whom you could entrust it for safe keeping?

I would think 25 years of good behavior is sufficient to show a reformed character.
 
wolram said:
I have had a shot gun for five years, used for clay shooting, but the law has
(reviewed) my case and refused a renewal, on the strenght of things i did in
the past, so now i have to hand in my beloved s57, i would have thought that 25yrs of good behaviour would have been good enough to show a reformed character.:cry:

Now this is really ironic. Bush committed some indiscretions in his younger years and he was elected president of the USA. :rolleyes:
 
Pengwuino said:
You have to actually hand in your shotgun? Do you live in Massachusettes? :smile: :smile: :smile:

No i live in the rotten old Uk, where lawannora has gone nutts
 
wolram for US pres... oh wait...
 
Pengwuino said:
wolram for US pres... oh wait...

Hey,. i would be a good president, for a start i would ban mac donnelds and
replace them with salad bars.
 
I'd vote for you *if and only if* you bought me a GSXR 750.

This is why gun control is stupid. What business do they have taking your gun away when you have done nothing wrong!? STUPID, JUST STUPID! Well, there goes one more of your rights! :rolleyes:
 
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wolram said:
Hey,. i would be a good president, for a start i would ban mac donnelds and
replace them with salad bars.

NO!

You would have to be impeached.

Don't take away our fast food!
 
  • #11
You shot the constables pet pigeon by mistake, didn't you?

All joking aside, I find it hard to believe that something which happened 25-years ago would have such an outcome. Redress the court, bring your friends and neighbors!
 
  • #12
pallidin said:
You shot the constables pet pigeon by mistake, didn't you?

All joking aside, I find it hard to believe that something which happened 25-years ago would have such an outcome. Redress the court, bring your friends and neighbors!

No i did by accident break a policemans finger, but that was 25 yrs ago, and he was poke ing me with it, that would be called assult now, and my reaction self defence.
 
  • #13
Astronuc said:
Hopefully you can appeal. In the meantime, do you have a trusted friend to whom you could entrust it for safe keeping?

I would think 25 years of good behavior is sufficient to show a reformed character.
May be you guys at PFs will give me a good reference?
 
  • #14
It is just so not fair, i mean, i will not even kill the wood pigs that roam my cottage, yet alone shoot a human.
 
  • #15
wolram said:
No i live in the rotten old Uk, where lawannora has gone nutts
Geez, whatever happened to "Merry Old England"? :smile: I always thought there was something rotten in Denmark - but England?

If they let Prince Philip carry a gun . . . :rolleyes:

Can you talk to a magistrate or someone?

The fact that you've had the gun this long without further incident . . . er, you have been a good boy right? :rolleyes: :smile:
 
  • #16
Astronuc said:
Geez, whatever happened to "Merry Old England"? :smile: I always thought there was something rotten in Denmark - but England?

If they let Prince Philip carry a gun . . . :rolleyes:

Can you talk to a magistrate or someone?

The fact that you've had the gun this long without further incident . . . er, you have been a good boy right? :rolleyes: :smile:

I have been a law abiding guy for 25 yrs, but if i wanted to be a taxi driver
i would not be able, because of my (record), heck why do i get all the hassel, when murderers get away with 5 years in clink
 
  • #17
Can you give the gun to Kia? But then you could never legally use it.
 
  • #18
Evo said:
Can you give the gun to Kia? But then you could never legally use it.
i wish these things were more simple, but i would give up my gun for you
any day :smile: :smile:
 
  • #19
wolram said:
Pengwuino said:
wolram for US pres... oh wait...
Hey,. i would be a good president, for a start i would ban mac donnelds and
replace them with salad bars.
Pengwuino what have you done.What other presidents been talking before they were president?
 
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scott1 said:
Pengwuino what have you done.What other presidents been talking before they were president?
i would start, a more more healthy regimen, for you, no burgers or fries,
heck that alone must put me in office of US president.
 
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wolram said:
i would start, a more more healthy regimen, for you, no burgers or fries,
heck that alone must put me in office of US president.
What are going to do about Iraq
Terroist
Education
The Ecconmy(if it existed)
Secert wiretapping
etc.
 
  • #22
scott1 said:
What are going to do about Iraq
Terroist
Education
The Ecconmy(if it existed)
Secert wiretapping
etc.

Leave them alone, let them sort out their differences we do not know the
problems they face.

Pay as you go no credit, if you can not afford it do not buy it.

if your government thinks they are under attack ,they must be allowed to sort the problems out, if it is not to your licking elect some one who is.
 
  • #23
wolram said:
No i did by accident break a policemans finger, but that was 25 yrs ago, and he was poke ing me with it, that would be called assult now, and my reaction self defence.

"Accident?" Battery is battery. Were you informed at the time you applied for the license that it could be revoked if the moon phase changed? I'll do the "provincial" thing and point out that you primitives in the old country are "backward," licensing convicted felons to carry firearms, and then, this is the "backward" part, reviewing such licenses and revoking them on the basis of the original conviction.

You did pick up the license on the basis of a "full disclosure" of your past?
 
  • #24
wolram said:
i would start, a more more healthy regimen, for you, no burgers or fries,
heck that alone must put me in office of US president.
pfft...! don't EVER take away fast-food...especially KFC or Dairy Queen...
 
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yomamma said:
pfft...! don't EVER take away fast-food...especially KFC or Dairy Queen...

That's not fast food. It's slow crap
 
  • #26
you're slow crap
 
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oooooooooooooooooo
 
  • #28
I see we have an audience
 
  • #29
fight to the death.
 
  • #30
All I have to do is step on him...
 
  • #31
No one's stopping you.
 
  • #32
yomamma said:
All I have to do is step on him...

Step on me as in let me beat your head in with a salmon?
 
  • #33
*steps on pengwuino(not getting beat on the head with salmon)*
 
  • #34
Poor kid...

*slaps yomamma with his salmon*
 
  • #35
*steps on pengwuino and his salmon*
 
  • #36
yomamma said:
pfft...! don't EVER take away fast-food...especially KFC or Dairy Queen...

OK, you can be deputy pm, and i will find jobs for all my PFs mates, just assure me you will never own two jags.
 
  • #37
wolram said:
I have had a shot gun for five years, used for clay shooting, but the law has
(reviewed) my case and refused a renewal, on the strenght of things i did in
the past, so now i have to hand in my beloved s57, i would have thought that 25yrs of good behaviour would have been good enough to show a reformed character.:cry:
So, you broke someone's finger 25 years ago (okay, a cop's finger), you never shot anyone or were involved in any armed assault, you have been permitted to keep the shotgun for 5 years now without incident, and only NOW they decide you can't keep it because of the incident 25 years ago? And you're sure you've been good other than that one broken finger, right? No armed robberies in your past, or a record a mile long, or anything like that? :wink: I know the UK is tough on gun control, but it hardly makes any sense that your record wasn't a problem 5 years ago, but suddenly becomes one. Is it a very nice shotgun that perhaps the police captain (or whoever is in charge of these things in the UK) wants it to add to his personal collection? :rolleyes:

I guess you'll have to go back to throwing rocks at and trying to stab your clay pigeons, as those options remain unregulated in the UK. :biggrin:
 
  • #38
Can one find a local barrister to appeal the case?

Also, is there a gun or sports club whose members could help support one's case to retain one's license for the shotgun?

Is there are friendly magistrate who favors gun ownership, or who is a member of a gun or sports club?
 
  • #39
Wolly, I didn't know you were such a bad a$$ dude!


Hope you can appeal it somehow, there has got to be someone you can talk to about it. Have they been refuseing permits to a lot of people?
 
  • #40
Wooly, you won't win against the twunts. Go and get yourself a 12ftlbs air rifle instead.
 
  • #41
or the traditional long bow! :biggrin:

It worked for Robin Hood and his Merry Men!
 
  • #42
hypatia said:
Wolly, I didn't know you were such a bad a$$ dude!


Hope you can appeal it somehow, there has got to be someone you can talk to about it. Have they been refuseing permits to a lot of people?

It was a very long time ago, and i was not very bad, just a bit high spirited.

it seems that all gun holders have had their licences reviewed, i do not know
how many have been refused renewal, it is the chief constable who decides
these cases, i wonder if he had a broken finger

Thanks every one :biggrin:
 

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