Should I be a Nuclear engineer or physicist?

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The discussion revolves around the dilemma of choosing between pursuing a degree in nuclear engineering or physics, particularly in the context of academic performance and career aspirations in nuclear energy. Participants explore the implications of each path, including the feasibility of transferring schools, the importance of grades, and the relevance of professional engineering licensure.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) expresses uncertainty about whether to pursue a nuclear engineering degree or a physics degree, citing academic challenges and financial constraints.
  • Some participants suggest that becoming a nuclear engineer is more straightforward than becoming a physicist, while others question the necessity of a Professional Engineer (PE) license.
  • Concerns are raised about the OP's performance in calculus courses, with some participants emphasizing the importance of strong math skills for upper-level physics and engineering classes.
  • The OP mentions a desire to work on fusion projects and questions whether a mechanical engineering degree with a nuclear focus would allow for job opportunities in the nuclear field.
  • Some participants discuss the differences in job market expectations regarding PE licensure in the US versus Canada.
  • There are inquiries about the OP's plans to take calculus courses and the potential for temporary overrides to enroll in necessary classes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the importance of PE licensure, the feasibility of the OP's academic goals, and the best path to achieve a career in nuclear energy. No consensus is reached on the best course of action for the OP.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the OP's self-identified academic limitations and the varying perspectives on the significance of grades and licensure in engineering careers. There are also references to specific areas of study within nuclear engineering that may influence career paths.

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Students considering careers in nuclear engineering or physics, particularly those facing academic challenges or uncertainties about their educational paths.

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Hey anyone,
I am not all that good at academics and so I'm in a bind. I want to be an engineer, but no way I can transfer into Purdue's main campus, just can't get my gpa up there. I can stay at the calumet branch and get a physics degree, but my love is nuclear energy. I come here because i don't know if i should just keep at it and blow the money i don't have trying to get into the engineer program, or go the other route. Now me not being good in a classroom is what is holding me back, but i can get Bs in physics up through modern physics. But I just retook calc 2 and got D. i know enough multi-variable, diff eq's, and liner, to do a lot of the quantum mechanics and such in the modern physics course, and I'm confident I can get a decent grade in calc three which i havn't taken, because iv done all the homework for the class. So i know the physics degree is within my reach because I'm already in the school. So I am looking for advice, because my dream is to be a nuclear engineer, but it looks because of money and time it may be out of my reach. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks everyone.
 
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mike232 said:
Hey anyone,
I am not all that good at academics and so I'm in a bind. I want to be an engineer, but no way I can transfer into Purdue's main campus, just can't get my gpa up there. I can stay at the calumet branch and get a physics degree, but my love is nuclear energy. I come here because i don't know if i should just keep at it and blow the money i don't have trying to get into the engineer program, or go the other route. Now me not being good in a classroom is what is holding me back, but i can get Bs in physics up through modern physics. But I just retook calc 2 and got D. i know enough multi-variable, diff eq's, and liner, to do a lot of the quantum mechanics and such in the modern physics course, and I'm confident I can get a decent grade in calc three which i havn't taken, because iv done all the homework for the class. So i know the physics degree is within my reach because I'm already in the school. So I am looking for advice, because my dream is to be a nuclear engineer, but it looks because of money and time it may be out of my reach. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks everyone.
If you did all the homework for Calc 3 why don't you just take it and breeze through it? Or is there some kind of CLEP exam you can take?
 
Becoming a nuclear engineer is much more straight-forward than becoming a physicist. If becoming a NE isn't within your reach, then neither is becoming a physicist. Get the engineering degree and minor in physics to your taste. Physicists can't get that 'PE' that is oh so important.
 
snatchingthepi said:
Physicists can't get that 'PE' that is oh so important.

Considering that 80% of engineering graduates don't have a PE, it can't be too important. Useful, certainly. Necessary? Most engineers clearly think not. (This agrees with personal observation: out of the dozen or so engineers I work with, two have a PE. Has it helped them? Yes. Are we about to fire the other ten for not having it? No.)
 
Are you in the US? My experience has been no PE no job (Canada).
 
I am in the US, as is the OP.
 
I'll keep in mind the situation is different in that country for the future. Thanks.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Considering that 80% of engineering graduates don't have a PE, it can't be too important. Useful, certainly. Necessary? Most engineers clearly think not. (This agrees with personal observation: out of the dozen or so engineers I work with, two have a PE. Has it helped them? Yes. Are we about to fire the other ten for not having it? No.)
I've encountered similar experience. A PE is required for certain functions, e.g., signing off on drawings and specifications, and usually, construction plans and so on, so it is beneficial.
 
Hercuflea said:
If you did all the homework for Calc 3 why don't you just take it and breeze through it? Or is there some kind of CLEP exam you can take?
I intend on taking calc three anyway, but i don't have the prereq. needed, so I'm talking about getting a temporary override so i can take the course. as to the comment on if i can't get the engineering degree no way i can get the physics, the only thing stopping me from getting the engi, is that my school doesn't offer it and i am not able to transfer into the school that does, but my school does offer a nuclear physics focus that i know i could get with at least Cs and Bs.
 
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mike232 said:
But I just retook calc 2 and got D. i know enough multi-variable, diff eq's, and liner, to do a lot of the quantum mechanics and such in the modern physics course, and I'm confident I can get a decent grade in calc three which i havn't taken, because iv done all the homework for the class.
mike232 said:
I intend on taking calc three anyway, but i don't have the prereq. needed, so I'm talking about getting a temporary override so i can take the course. as to the comment on if i can't get the engineering degree no way i can get the physics, the only thing stopping me from getting the engi, is that my school doesn't offer it and i am not able to transfer into the school that does, but my school does offer a nuclear physics focus that i know i could get with at least Cs and Bs.
I would be concerned about Calc 2 and Calc 3. Upper level physics and engineering classes are usually heavy on calculus, especially the physics. Hopefully, one would strive for something more than Cs and Bs. Is one serious about nuclear engineering? What particular area in nuclear engineering? Nuclear engineering student generally have a core course load that includes nuclear reactor physics, which is really neutron transport physics. Effects of radiation on materials is another aspect. Outside of that much of an NE course is Mech. Eng. and/or Electrical Eng.
 
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Astronuc said:
I would be concerned about Calc 2 and Calc 3. Upper level physics and engineering classes are usually heavy on calculus, especially the physics. Hopefully, one would strive for something more than Cs and Bs. Is one serious about nuclear engineering? What particular area in nuclear engineering? Nuclear engineering student generally have a core course load that includes nuclear reactor physics, which is really neutron transport physics. Effects of radiation on materials is another aspect. Outside of that much of an NE course is Mech. Eng. and/or Electrical Eng.

Of course I'll shoot for better grades. But I know my classroom is a bit lacking and I don't know how to really do better. But I know the math load. I have already read almost the entire modern physics book and some of the quantum mechanics class book. Do I know a lot of math I don't have class credit for because I havnt taken the classes. But my issue is I can never seem to get better grades than Cs and Bs in classes. But I am definitely driven to learn the material. Also a blanket question. If I get a mechanical degree and a physics with a nuclear focus. Could that open me up to get jobs in the nuclear fields like a NE? Also my dream is working on a fusion project. I don't know if a NE is the right degree for that.
 
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mike232 said:
Of course I'll shoot for better grades. But I know my classroom is a bit lacking and I don't know how to really do better. But I know the math load. I have already read almost the entire modern physics book and some of the quantum mechanics class book. Do I know a lot of math I don't have class credit for because I havnt taken the classes. But my issue is I can never seem to get better grades than Cs and Bs in classes. But I am definitely driven to learn the material. Also a blanket question. If I get a mechanical degree and a physics with a nuclear focus. Could that open me up to get jobs in the nuclear fields like a NE? Also my dream is working on a fusion project. I don't know if a NE is the right degree for that.
Yes - a mechanical engineering degree (with focus on materials and power conversion) with a physics degree (with focus on nuclear) would be a good background in nuclear energy and fusion in lieu of a nuclear engineering degree. Fusion research can focus on two main areas - the plasma (plasma physics and diagnostics) and the rest of the plant from magnetic confinement systems through first wall and the power conversion systems. Those involved in the plasma physics would likely have a physics degree, perhaps with some specialization on plasma and/or nuclear physics, or a nuclear engineering degree.
 
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Astronuc said:
Yes - a mechanical engineering degree (with focus on materials and power conversion) with a physics degree (with focus on nuclear) would be a good background in nuclear energy and fusion in lieu of a nuclear engineering degree. Fusion research can focus on two main areas - the plasma (plasma physics and diagnostics) and the rest of the plant from magnetic confinement systems through first wall and the power conversion systems. Those involved in the plasma physics would likely have a physics degree, perhaps with some specialization on plasma and/or nuclear physics, or a nuclear engineering degree.
 
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Ok thankyou vary much. A combo of money and time is always a limiter, so this has really helped me figure out how to achieve my goals here.
 

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