Should we warn an experienced poster for not using latex?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the appropriateness of warning an experienced forum member for not using LaTeX in their posts, particularly in the context of mathematical proofs. Participants explore the implications of LaTeX usage for clarity and the potential impact on newer members of the community.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a warning may be warranted for not using LaTeX, especially for mathematical proofs, while others argue that it should be approached with a gentle nudge first.
  • One participant proposes sending a private message to encourage the use of LaTeX, emphasizing that it is not a strict rule but a helpful tool for clarity.
  • Another participant questions whether there is an official rule regarding LaTeX usage that justifies a warning, suggesting that nudges are preferable.
  • Several participants express the view that not using LaTeX primarily affects the readability of the posts for the member themselves rather than sending a significant message to new users.
  • There is a suggestion that learning LaTeX could be beneficial for the member, as it would improve the presentation of their posts.
  • Some participants note that the member in question seems to be recognizing the importance of LaTeX, indicating a potential shift in their approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a warning is appropriate. There are competing views on the necessity and effectiveness of nudging versus warning, with some advocating for a softer approach and others emphasizing the need for clarity in mathematical communication.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the existence of formal rules about LaTeX usage, and there is a lack of clarity on the consequences of not adhering to such practices.

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For a math proof - I would say yes. But I do clearly do not know where we stand on an adhoc halfway proof
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I'd try a PM along the lines of "C'mon, you've been around here long enough to know that you should be using Latex" first. If that doesn't bring about the desired improvement, try "Please... you're sending a message to all the newbies that they don't have to learn Latex, which makes our job harder".

Warn/infract only after gentle nudges don't work, and it's unlikely that it will be necessary. Most of our experienced posters are pretty much committed to trying to do the right thing.
 
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Thank you. :) I tried the minor nudge already. So let's see if the OP takes pity on us.
 
Nugatory said:
I'd try a PM along the lines of "C'mon, you've been around here long enough to know that you should be using Latex" first.
I would phrase it a little softer and just link them to the LaTeX guide. LaTeX is not a rule.
 
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Does it say anywhere that users should be using LaTeX and if they don't after some time it is an offense worth a warning? I cannot remember anything like that in the rules.

By all means, I would nudge him gently and tell him he is much more likely to get a useful reply after using LaTeX, but I do not think users should receive warnings for not doing so.
 
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I'm on the side of not giving a warning. The member is only making it worse for themselves by making their posts harder to read. And I don't think it sends much of a message to the newbies. The overwhelming majority of them will never use LateX, have never heard about it, and don't make posts where it would help much anyways.
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
I would phrase it a little softer and just link them to the LaTeX guide. LaTeX is not a rule.
I agree completely. You could also add that it would take less than a minute or two to get up to speed with subscripts and exponents, and not much more than that to get familiar with how fractions, integrals, and summations are formed.
Drakkith said:
I'm on the side of not giving a warning. The member is only making it worse for themselves by making their posts harder to read. And I don't think it sends much of a message to the newbies. The overwhelming majority of them will never use LateX, have never heard about it, and don't make posts where it would help much anyways.
I wouldn't give a warning, either, but maybe a PM. @Psychonaut is a math major, I'm pretty sure, so it would behoove him to add just a bit of polish to his posts, making them easier to read.
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
I would phrase it a little softer and just link them to the LaTeX guide. LaTeX is not a rule.

Its a way of life!
 
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Looks like he is getting the message...
PsychonautQQ said:
Ugh okay guys sorry I've put off learning latex too long I see now it's criticalness
 
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jedishrfu said:
But he didnt use latex to post it.
Because it would look like this:
##Ugh okay guys sorry I've put off learning latex too long I see now it's criticalness##
 
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Orodruin said:
Because it would look like this:
##Ugh okay guys sorry I've put off learning latex too long I see now it's criticalness##
Not if he's doing it right:
##\text{ Ugh okay guys sorry I've put off learning latex too long I see now it's criticalness }##
 
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fresh_42 said:
Not if he's doing it right:
##\text{ Ugh okay guys sorry I've put off learning latex too long I see now it's criticalness }##
Well, quite obviously. This takes away the humor though.
 

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