Show $\bigcup A$ is Finite When $A$ is a Finite Set of Finite Sets

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In summary, we can use induction on the number of sets in $A$ to show that the union of a finite set of finite sets is finite. We first show that the union of two finite sets is finite, and then we use induction to show that the union of any number of finite sets is also finite. We can also use induction to prove the property that if $n \leq k<n+m$ and $n+i=k$, then $0\le i<m$, which can be used in the proof of surjectivity of the function $h: X \cup Y \to
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Hello! (Wave)

I want to show that if $A$ is a finite set of finite sets then the set $\bigcup A$ is finite.

The set $A$ is finite. That means that there is a natural number $n \in \omega$ such that $A \sim n$, i.e. there is a bijective function $f$ such that $f: A \overset{\text{bijective}}{\rightarrow} n$.

If we would want to show that $B \cup C$, $B, C \in A$ is a finite set we would do the following:

$A,B$ are finite sets. That means that there are $m, l \in \omega$ such that $A \sim m$ and $B \sim l$, i.e. there are functions $f: A \overset{\text{bijective}}{\rightarrow} m$, $g: B \overset{\text{bijective}}{\rightarrow} l$.

Then we distinguish the cases: $A \bigcap B=\varnothing$ and $A \bigcap B \neq \varnothing$.First case: $A \cap B=\varnothing$

We define the function $h: A \cup B \to m+l$

so that $h(x)=f(x)$ if $x \in X \\ h(y)=m+g(y)$ if $y \in Y$

We want to show that $h: X \cup Y \overset{1-1}{\to} m+l$

Let $a,b \in X \cup Y$ with $h(a)=h(b)$

  • if $a,b \in X$ then $h(a)=f(a)$ and $h(b)=f(b)$. Thus $f(a)=f(b) \Rightarrow a=b$ since $f$ is injective
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  • if $a,b \in Y$ then $h(a)=m+g(a)$ and $h(b)=m+g(b)$. Thus $m+g(a)=m+g(b) \Rightarrow g(a)=g(b) \Rightarrow a=b$ since $g$ is injective
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  • if $a \in X, b \in Y$ then $h(a)=f(a)<m$ and $h(b)=m+g(b) \geq m$, so in this case it cannot be that $h(a)=h(b)$

Then we show that $h: X \cup Y \to n+m$ is surjective.

Second case: $X \cup Y=(X-Y) \cup Y$ with $X-Y$ finite set , $Y$ finite set and $(X-Y) \cap Y=\varnothing$ so we reduce the problem to the first case.

What can we do now that we consider more that two finite sets? What function could we pick? (Thinking)
 
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Once you know that the union of two finite sets is finite, you could use induction on the number of sets in $A$.
 
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Evgeny.Makarov said:
Once you know that the union of two finite sets is finite, you could use induction on the number of sets in $A$.

So could we do it like that? (Thinking)

  • The union of two finite sets is a finite set.
  • Suppose that the union of $k$ finite sets is a finite set.
  • We will show that the union of $k+1$ finite sets is a finite set.
    Suppose that we have the following finite sets: $A_1, A_2, \dots, A_{k+1}$

    $$A_1 \cup A_2 \cup \dots A_k \cup A_{k+1}=(A_1 \cup A_2) \cup A_3 \dots A_k \cup A_{k+1} \overset{\star}{=} C_1 \cup A_3 \dots A_k \cup A_{k+1} $$

    We see that $C_1 \cup A_3 \dots A_k \cup A_{k+1}$ is a union of $k$ finite sets, so from the induction hypothesis we have that $A_1 \cup A_2 \cup \dots A_k \cup A_{k+1}$ is a finite set.$$\star: \text{ We set } C_1=A_1 \cup A_2 \text{ which is a finite set from the base-case.}$$
 
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Yes, that's fine.
 
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Evgeny.Makarov said:
Yes, that's fine.

Great! Thanks a lot! (Happy)Could I also ask you something about the proof that the union of two finite sets is a finite set?

We want to show that $h: X \cup Y \to n+m$ is surjective.

In order to do this, we need to show that $\forall k \in n+m$ there is a $b \in X \cup Y$ such that $h(b)=k$.

So it suffices to show that $\forall k<n$ there is a $x \in X$ such that $h(x)=k$ and $\forall n \leq k<n+m$ there is a $y \in Y$ such that $h(y)=k$.For $x \in X$: $h(x)=k \Rightarrow f(x)=k$ and we know that $\forall k<n, \exists x \in X$ such that $f(x)=k$ since $f$ is surjective.For $y \in Y: h(y)=k \Rightarrow n+g(y)=k$How can we continue, knowing that the subtraction between natural numbers is not defined?
 
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evinda said:
We want to show that $h: X \cup Y \to n+m$ is surjective.
Don't you have a theorem that $A$ is finite iff there is an injection from $A$ to some natural number $n$? Once this is proved, there is no need to prove surjectivity.

evinda said:
For $x \in X$: $h(x)=k \Rightarrow f(x)=k$ and we know that $\forall k<n, \exists x \in X$ such that $f(x)=k$ since $f$ is surjective.
I am not sure I understand the logic here. What you have is $k<n$; there is no $x$ given.

evinda said:
For $y \in Y: h(y)=k \Rightarrow n+g(y)=k$

How can we continue, knowing that the subtraction between natural numbers is not defined?
You can prove the property that if $n \leq k<n+m$ and $n+i=k$, then $0\le i<m$.
 
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Evgeny.Makarov said:
Don't you have a theorem that $A$ is finite iff there is an injection from $A$ to some natural number $n$? Once this is proved, there is no need to prove surjectivity.

No (Shake) According to my notes, $A$ is finite iff there is a bijection from $A$ to some natural number $n$.

Evgeny.Makarov said:
I am not sure I understand the logic here. What you have is $k<n$; there is no $x$ given.

So we have to start from $k<n$, right? But what could we say about that? :confused:

Evgeny.Makarov said:
You can prove the property that if $n \leq k<n+m$ and $n+i=k$, then $0\le i<m$.

Could we prove the property using induction on [m] n [/m] as follows?
  • For $n=0: 0 \leq k <m \wedge n=k \rightarrow 0 \leq i<m \checkmark$
  • Suppose that for some $n \in \omega$ and $\forall m, i \in \omega$ it holds that: $n \leq k < n+m \wedge n+i=k \rightarrow 0 \leq i<m$
  • We will show that $n+1 \leq k<n+1+m \wedge n+1+i=k \rightarrow 0 \leq i<m$

    $n+1 \leq k<n+1+m \rightarrow n+1+i \leq k+i<n+1+m+i \rightarrow k \leq k+i < k+m \rightarrow \overset{\star}{\to} 0 \leq i<m$

$$\star: \text{ From the induction hypothesis, we have: } \\ n \leq k< n+m \wedge n+i=k \rightarrow 0 \leq i <m \Leftrightarrow n+i \leq k+i< n+m+i \wedge n+i=k \\ \rightarrow k \leq k+i<k+m$$
 

Related to Show $\bigcup A$ is Finite When $A$ is a Finite Set of Finite Sets

1. What does the notation $\bigcup A$ mean?

The notation $\bigcup A$ represents the union of all the elements in the set $A$. In other words, it is the set that contains all the elements that are in at least one of the sets in $A$.

2. Why is it important to show that $\bigcup A$ is finite?

Showing that $\bigcup A$ is finite is important because it helps us understand the properties of the set $A$. It also allows us to make conclusions about the elements in $A$, such as their size or characteristics.

3. What does it mean for a set to be finite?

A set is considered finite if it has a limited or countable number of elements. This means that we can list out all the elements in the set without it being infinite.

4. How do you prove that $\bigcup A$ is finite when $A$ is a finite set of finite sets?

To prove that $\bigcup A$ is finite when $A$ is a finite set of finite sets, we can use the principle of mathematical induction. This involves showing that for each element in $A$, the union of all the sets in $A$ is finite. We then use this to show that the union of all sets in $A$ is finite.

5. Can $\bigcup A$ be infinite when $A$ is a finite set of finite sets?

No, $\bigcup A$ cannot be infinite when $A$ is a finite set of finite sets. This is because the union of a finite number of finite sets can only result in a finite set. If $\bigcup A$ were to be infinite, it would mean that there exists at least one infinite set in $A$, which would contradict the fact that $A$ is a set of finite sets.

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