Show that four points lie on a plane

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The discussion revolves around proving that four given points lie on the same plane using vector calculations. The key equation mentioned is PS→⋅(PR→×PQ→)=0, which indicates that if the dot product is zero, the points are coplanar. One participant initially doubts their calculations, suggesting the points do not lie on a plane, but later acknowledges a misunderstanding of the problem. The correct approach involves confirming that the fourth point lies in the plane defined by the first three points through vector analysis. Ultimately, the forum emphasizes the importance of applying the correct mathematical principles to determine coplanarity.
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Homework Statement


(2; 0; 1); (-1; 2; 3); (3; 2; 2) and (3;-6;-3)

Homework Equations



PS→⋅(PR→×PQ→)=0

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Hi all, I am just wondering if my calculations are correct, and in fact these points do not lie on a plane. My answer is = 50 and i am not confident. Can anyone help me please?
 
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It would be much easier to judge if what you are doing is correct if you actually showed us what you are doing.

Edit: Also, the points do lie in a plane - any solution not resulting in this is going to be wrong.
 
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toupee said:
Hi all, I am just wondering if my calculations are correct, and in fact these points do not lie on a plane. My answer is = 50 and i am not confident. Can anyone help me please?

What is 50?

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I have miss-read the question. All it is asking me to do, is prove that these points lie in the same plane. May i ask how?
 
If this is a homework problem or problem in a course you are taking there should be a description of how to determine this in your course literature. Have you tried applying that?
 
toupee said:
I have miss-read the question. All it is asking me to do, is prove that these points lie in the same plane. May i ask how?
You have the answer in your first post:
PS→⋅(PR→×PQ→)=0
(I assume the arrow after indicates "vector")

Any three points, such as P, Q, and R must lie in a plane so the two vectors PR and PQ lie in a plane and their cross product is perpendicular to the plane. The fourth point, S, lies in that same plane if and only the vector PS does also- and then its dot product with the perpendicular vector is 0.
 
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