Showing Symmetry in Real Invertible Matrices and Non-Invertible Cases

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The discussion focuses on demonstrating that the expression <x,y> = y'A'Ax defines an inner product for real invertible n x n matrices A and vectors x, y in R^n. Participants emphasize the need to show that this inner product is symmetric, positive definite, and multilinear, with symmetry established through the equality <y,x> = <x,y>. Positive definiteness is confirmed by showing that <x,x> = (Ax)'(Ax) is greater than zero unless x is the zero vector. The conversation also touches on the implications when A is not invertible, though this aspect is less developed. Overall, the thread provides insights into the properties of inner products in the context of linear algebra.
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Hi can someone please help me get started on the following question?

Q. Let A be a real invertible n * n matrix. Show that \left\langle {\mathop x\limits^ \to ,\mathop y\limits^ \to } \right\rangle \equiv \mathop y\limits^ \to A^T A\mathop x\limits^ \to = \left( {A\mathop y\limits^ \to } \right)^T \left( {A\mathop x\limits^ \to } \right) defines an inner product in R^n, where x and y are column vectors in R^n. What happens when A is not invertible? (Note: M^T is the transpose of a matrix M, obtained by intechanging the rows and columns of M).

The first step would be to show that the inner product is symmetric I would say. I think I should get to ... = \mathop x\limits^ \to A^T A\mathop y\limits^ \to but I don't know how to do get to it. Can someone suggest a method to use? I'm not sure if I need to explicity write down a matrix in this question.
 
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(Ay)^t * (Ax) can be interpreted as the "usual" inner product of the vectors Ay and Ax...
 
Let's drop the silly arrows from vectors, eh? vectors are lower case, matrices are upper case, we'll use ascii pseudo tex so that ' means transpose.

So, we want to show that <x,y>=y'A'Ax is a real inner product.

Firstly since <x,y> is a real number, ie a vector in 1-d then it is symmtric, ie <y,x>=<x,y>. Linearity is even easier since we're just multipliying matrices.
 
You want to show that your given product is symmetric, positive definite, and multilinear. To show it's symmetric:

<x, y> = y'A'Ax
<y, x> = x'A'Ay = (x'A'Ay)' = y'A'Ax as required

The above basically says that a real number is like a 1x1 matrix, which is of course a symmetric matrix. I guess this is what you meant matt? To show it's positive definite

<x, x> = x'A'Ax = (Ax)'(Ax)

Ax is just a vector, and (Ax)'(Ax) is just the sum of the squares of the entries of Ax, so clearly <x, x> > 0 with equality iff x = 0. You can prove linearity on your own. Note you only have to prove linearity in one "component" and the fact that it is symmetric guarantees bilinearity. So just prove:

<ax + y, z> = a<x, z> + <y, z>
 
the "unofficial convention" for scalars is to use letters like r,s,t (preferably greek letters like lambda but i can't do that in plain html) for them, reserving u,v,w,x,y,z for vectors and A,B for matrices.

and yes, that was what i meant, AKG about 1x1 matrices and real numbers being the same thing.
 
Thanks for the help guys. When I write vectors I normally use a tilde, I just used arrows because I didn't know how to put a little squiggle underneath the vectors.
 
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