Showing the inequality holds for an interval (?)

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Showing the inequality holds for an interval (?)

Homework Statement


Hi, my homework question is:

Show that the inequality
\sqrt{2+x}<2+\frac{x}{4} holds \forallx\in[-2,0]

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I tried using IVT or bisection method, but they are just for existence of a root. How can I show it holds for all x in the interval [-2,0]? Would taking the derivative of the function
\sqrt{2+x}-2-\frac{x}{4} lead me anywhere? Like finding maximum or minimum points? Thanks a lot for any help.
 
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Find the roots of sqrt(2+x)-(2-x/4)=0. The use the roots to sketch a graph. Where your graph is negative is where sqrt(2+x)<(2-x/4), right?
 


Dick said:
Find the roots of sqrt(2+x)-(2-x/4)=0. The use the roots to sketch a graph. Where your graph is negative is where sqrt(2+x)<(2-x/4), right?

Thanks, Dick, but when I try finding roots of \sqrt{2+x}-(2+\frac{x}{4})= 0, what I get is:

2+x = [\frac{x}{4}]2+4+x
x2/16+2=0
but it is not possible. How should I proceed from here? Is there a mistake?
 


life is maths said:
Thanks, Dick, but when I try finding roots of \sqrt{2+x}-(2+\frac{x}{4})= 0, what I get is:

2+x = [\frac{x}{4}]2+4+x
x2/16+2=0
but it is not possible. How should I proceed from here? Is there a mistake?

No, no mistake. If there are no roots or singularities then that difference must always be positive or always be negative since it doesn't cross zero. Which is it?
 


x2/16+2 must always be positive for all intervals of x. If we put the inequality sign instead of 0, the statement is true. Should I express it like: 'Since x2/16+2>0 is true for all x, then it also holds for x\in[-2,0]' ? Is this a formal statement?
 


That's formal enough for me.
 


Thanks a lot, I had thought I should solve for a specific case, but this is also true :)
 


If you want to get fancy, you can say this: Since the inequality is true for all real numbers, it's true a fortiori, for x \in [-2, 0].

Loosely translated, the italicized phrase means "even more strongly."
 


life is maths said:
Thanks a lot, I had thought I should solve for a specific case, but this is also true :)

I think you should. So far you've only shown the curves sqrt(2+x) and 2+x/4 don't cross, since they are never equal. So one is always greater than the other one. To say WHICH one is greater, I would test them at, say, x=(-2).
 
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Dick said:
I think you should. So far you've only shown the curves sqrt(2+x) and 2+x/4 don't cross, since they are never equal. So one is always greater than the other one. To say WHICH one is greater, I would test them at, say, x=(-2).

Thanks, Dick. If I take x= -2, then I get \sqrt{-2+2}< 2+ \frac{(-2)}{4}, which is 0 < \frac{3}{2}. It also holds for 0, then \sqrt{2+x} < 2+\frac{x}{4} in the interval [-2,0]. Now how should I proceed? How can I show this holds for every number in this interval?
I'm a bit confused :confused:
 
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life is maths said:
Thanks, Dick. If I take x= -2, then I get \sqrt{-2+2}< 2+ \frac{(-2)}{4}, which is 0 < \frac{3}{2}. It also holds for 0, then \sqrt{2+x} < 2+\frac{x}{4} in the interval [-2,0]. Now how should I proceed? How can I show this holds for every number in this interval?
I'm a bit confused :confused:

Because you showed the graphs don't cross because there are no values where they are equal. So sqrt(x+1) is ALWAYS greater than 2+x/4 for any x>=(-2). It's true on [-2.infinity). So it must also be true on [-2,0].
 
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Wow, drawing their graphs shows everything clearly. sqrt(2+x) is always smaller than 2+x/4. Hence, this is true for every interval that they are defined (x>=-2).

Thanks for your time and effort, Dick and Mark :) You were a great help.
 
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