Solve Quadratic Equation for Single or Multiple Intersections with the x-axis

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The discussion focuses on determining the values of k for the quadratic equation y=9x^2 + 3kx + k to find its intersections with the x-axis. For one intersection point (A), the discriminant must equal zero, leading to k=0. For two intersections (B), the discriminant must be greater than zero, resulting in the conditions k < 0 or k > 4. Conversely, for no intersections (C), the discriminant must be less than zero, which occurs when 0 < k < 4. The participants clarify the use of the discriminant and how to solve the quadratic inequality to find these intervals.
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Homework Statement


Find k such that the graph of y=9x^2 + 3kx + k
A) intersects the x-axis in one point only
B) intersects the x-axis in two points
C) does not intersect the x-axis


Homework Equations


D= b^2 − 4ac
y= ax^2+bx+c
quadratic equation

The Attempt at a Solution


I got A but using the discriminent b^2-4ac= 0 meaning there is one root. but I have no idea how to get B and C. The answer is

B) k < 0 or k >4
C) 0<k<4
 
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y=9x^{2}+3kx+k, so a=9, b=3k, c=k, now

A) D=b^{2}-4ac=0 so we will have two identical solutions, and the graph will touch the x-axis. Probbably you meant here to touch , because it does not really intersect.
B) D>0
C)D<0

SInce a=9>0 it means that the parabola will be opened upward. So when D<0, it means that the parabola does not intersect the x-axis at all, since the quadratic equation 9x^{2}+3kx+k=0 does not have real roots, while when D>0, it means that there are two distinct roots of the quadratic equation.

Do u know how to go about it now?
 
Still don't understand.

For A, by using b^2-4ac= 0 I got the answer that k=0 (which is correct)
For B, I still don't understand how to achieve this answer k < 0 or k >4. How can I work with my equations to conclude that Teh values of k must be k< 0 or k >4 for y=9x^2 + 3kx + k to intersect two places.
 
well B)D=b^{2}-4ac&gt;0 =&gt;(3k)^2-4*(9)*(k)&gt;0=&gt;9k^{2}-36k&gt;0 , do you know how to solve this quadratic inequality?

One method for doint it is like this

9k^{2}-36k&gt;0=&gt;k^{2}-4k&gt;0=&gt; k(k-4)&gt;0 then this is greater then zero if:1) k>0, and k-4>0, or 2) k<0 and k-4<0

another method is to first graph the function y=9k^{2}-36k and see at what intervals the function is positive, that is above x-axis.
 
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undefinable said:
For A, by using b^2-4ac= 0 I got the answer that k=0 (which is correct)

No.

b^2-4ac = 9k^2 - 36k.

9k^2 - 36k = 0 is a quadratic equation, and it has two solutions.

You only found one solution (k = 0) - what is the other? :smile:
 
^ Right, 0 and 4, lol

I'm getting the numbers but I'm not getting the greater than and less than signs.

Referring to 9k^{2}-36k&gt;0=&gt;k^{2}-4k&gt;0=&gt; k(k-4)&gt;0 I got that but then what I concluded from that is k>0 and K>4. HOw can I end up with K<0 ?
 
Try graphing the quadratic y = k2 - 4k. We are looking for when y > 0. What values of k give that?
 
undefinable said:
Right, 0 and 4, lol

Hurrah! :smile:

Referring to 9k^{2}-36k&gt;0=&gt;k^{2}-4k&gt;0=&gt; k(k-4)&gt;0 I got that but then what I concluded from that is k>0 and K>4. HOw can I end up with K<0 ?

Stop! … think! … k(k-4)>0 … try a few example for k …

Got it? :smile:
 
undefinable said:
^ Right, 0 and 4, lol

I'm getting the numbers but I'm not getting the greater than and less than signs.

Referring to 9k^{2}-36k&gt;0=&gt;k^{2}-4k&gt;0=&gt; k(k-4)&gt;0 I got that but then what I concluded from that is k>0 and K>4. HOw can I end up with K<0 ?

i perfectly well explained it in my post #4, that

k(k-4)&gt;0 is possible in two cases


<br /> k&gt;0 \ \ and \ \ k-4&gt;0 \ or \ \ k&lt;0 \ and \ \ k-4&lt;0 <br /> think about this!
 
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It may be easier to do k(k-4) > 0 graphically - the find the intervals for which the curve is above the k axis. Sketching that should be easy.
 
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