Simply cannot remember int/diff formulas

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of remembering integration and differentiation formulas in calculus, particularly in the context of preparing for an electrical engineering program. Participants explore the importance of recognizing problem types and the ability to manipulate equations, as well as the necessity of memorization versus understanding underlying concepts.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in recalling integration and differentiation formulas after a long hiatus from studying calculus.
  • Another participant questions whether not memorizing all formulas will significantly impact academic success, suggesting that knowing how to find the necessary information may suffice.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of recognizing problem types and transforming them into solvable forms as essential skills.
  • Some participants propose that understanding the derivation of formulas can aid in retention, rather than rote memorization.
  • One participant shares specific trigonometric identities and their relevance to certain integration techniques, suggesting that familiarity with these can simplify the process.
  • Another participant encourages practice through solving numerous problems to reinforce understanding and memory of formulas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of problem recognition and manipulation skills, but there is no consensus on the necessity of memorizing formulas versus understanding them. Multiple views exist regarding the best approach to mastering calculus concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the difficulty of memorizing formulas and the potential benefits of deriving them, but do not resolve the question of how best to approach learning these concepts. The discussion reflects varying levels of confidence and strategies among participants.

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Students preparing for calculus courses, particularly those entering engineering programs, may find this discussion relevant as it addresses common concerns about formula retention and problem-solving strategies.

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I'm currently reviewing calculus that I learned 10 years ago, because I will be resuming an electrical engineering program in the fall.

I am simply having a heck of a time remembering all of the formulas. Basically, I'm having to look at the problem, look at the list of elementary integration/differentiation formulas, see if I can manipulate the equation to best fit one of the formulas, and then work the problem based on the best method.

For example, looking at an integration problem, and noticing, "oh hey...that's a sqrt(a^2-u^2) in the denominator...lemme see which substitution would be best to use, etc. Then once I get it in the form I want, I usually ahve to look up WHAT the integration is...for instance, arcsin(u/a) + c, in this example.

I'm nervous that I'm not going to have what it takes to be successful in this program, if I cant' even remember these formulas.
 
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is there a question in here somewhere ?
 
If I can't memorize all of the integration and differentiation formulas for trigs, hyperbolics, all the inverses, etc...is that going to be a big problem in my academic career? Or as long as I know what I'm looking for, is that sufficient?
 
noticing, "oh hey...that's a sqrt(a^2-u^2) in the denominator.
see if I can manipulate the equation to best fit one of the formulas
These two are very important skills. The first one reflects the ability to look at a problem and recognize it as something you can do (or, at least, similarity to things you can do). The second reflects the ability to actually transform a problem from its given form into the form you know how to solve.

Actually memorizing the solution method for the particular form (as opposed to knowing where to look it up) is something that can be trained through practice, if it is really necessary.
 
Actually it is quite hard plainly remembering the formulas. If you derive them,or know why they work it is much easier.

If you know a few identities, everything gets easier.

1 + \tan(x)^2 = \sec(x)

This identity shows why we use the tan substitution when dealing with

\sqrt{a^2+x^2} (Try it for yourself)

The same is with another identity

cos(x)^2 \, + \, sin(x)^2 \, = \, 1

\sqrt{a^2 - x^2}

Anyho, just do a billion problems. After a while it sinks into your blood. Here is a list of a bunch of fun integration problems. You really have to think to solve a few of these, and that should be right up your alley =)

http://www.2shared.com/document/fTXjMCFj/Integrals_from_R_to_Z.html

Also here, tad more info

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=498665
 
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