Simulink help for getting a frequency I can use as an input

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The discussion focuses on extracting the frequency of a sine wave signal in Simulink, specifically a 60Hz input, for use in a PID controller. Users suggest utilizing the Phase-Locked Loop (PLL) block available in Simulink to determine the frequency of the input signal. Additionally, the FFT block from the DSP toolbox is recommended for frequency extraction through Fourier transforms. The conversation highlights the need for proper connections and configurations to obtain accurate frequency readings from these blocks.

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Ok, say I have a sine wave block that has a frequency of 60Hz. What can I do to get that frequency as a number so I can use it as an input to another block? I've tried various things such as a "sign" block that counts when it switches from positive to negative and then a counter that resets after a second. That doesn't work. It counts up and resets, but it doesn't just tell me what the frequency of the signal is. I want something that will just say "hey, the frequency of the input signal is this." so I can feed it into another block.

Essentially I am trying to get a frequency I can feed into a PID so I can control a variable frequency to keep it at a steady 60 Hz.

I am actually trying to control the frequency of a Double fed induction generator that doesn't have a steady output voltage frequency. We can control the rotor frequency as a means of controlling the stator output frequency, but I am trying to do this automatically with a PID controller. I'm feeding the stator voltage into a controller that can run simulink models, but I can't get it to just say what the stator frequency is. I can't find anything is simulink that will just give me a block that has the frequency of the input signal that I can feed into something else. Any suggestions?
 
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Hi,
You can use PLL block in Simulink to find the frequency of the signal. Both single and three-phase PLLs are available in Simulink.
 
I had looked at the PLL block, but I couldn't find a way to hook it up to anything that actually gave me the frequency. Say for example, I just hook up a sinewave block set to 60Hz to the PLL, what do I need to run the Frequency output to for it to say "60"? I tried just hooking it up to a display but it would only give me a 1 I think. What do I need to do with the PLL to actually get it to output the frequency being fed in?
 
unless you have the DSP toolbox, there is not a drop in block.

have you had a signals and systems class?
You want to extract frequency information, which implies a DFT, FFT, or continuous Fourier transform function.
Either use the FFT block from the DSP toolbox, or use the s-block to write your own function and implement the Fourier transform or fft or dft.
or you can use individual blocks to implement the for-mentioned functions. Then you can save the pattern as a subsystem and use it in the future.
 
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