Singular matrices and complex entries

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which a specific matrix with complex entries can be singular, focusing on the determinant and its implications. Participants explore the nature of the determinant and the values of the variable involved, considering both theoretical and practical aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a matrix and seeks to determine if it can be singular by setting its determinant to zero.
  • Another participant suggests that singularity is possible over the field of integers modulo 2, but questions the relevance of complex numbers in that context.
  • There is a discussion about the specific values of ##x## that would make the determinant zero, with some proposing ##x = i## and others correcting this to ##x = -i##.
  • A participant mentions the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra, suggesting that a root must exist, while not disagreeing with the proposed solution of ##x = -i##.
  • Another participant notes that the nature of the determinant's equation (quadratic, linear, or constant) affects whether it can equal zero, providing an alternative matrix example that leads to no solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the values of ##x## that can make the matrix singular, with some proposing solutions while others challenge or refine those suggestions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which the determinant can be zero.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the nature of ##x## and the implications of changing the matrix structure, which affect the conclusions drawn about singularity.

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Hi PF!

Let's say we have a matrix that looks like $$
A = \begin{bmatrix}
1-x & 1+x \\
i & 1
\end{bmatrix} \implies\\ \det(A) = (1-x) -i(1+x).
$$
I want ##A## to be singular, so ##\det(A) = 0##. Is this impossible?
 
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No. It would be possible over ##\mathbb{Z}_2## but then ## i ## doesn't make sense, as ##x^2+1\in \mathbb{Z}_2[x]## isn't irreducible.
 
fresh_42 said:
No. It would be possible over ##\mathbb{Z}_2## but then ## i ## doesn't make sense, as ##x^2+1\in \mathbb{Z}_2[x]## isn't irreducible.
Right, so the only solution is when ##x=i##?
 
joshmccraney said:
Right, so the only solution is when ##x=i##?
No, this would yield ##\det(A)=2-2i## if we assume ##A\in \mathbb{M}_2(\mathbb{C})##. But before you carry on: What is ##i ##? Where is ##x## supposed to be from? And does ##1## represent the multiplicative neutral, i.e. ##1\neq 0\,?##
 
joshmccraney said:
Right, so the only solution is when ##x=i##?

##x = -i## is a solution.

I'm assuming ##x## is a complex number.
 
PeroK said:
##x = -i## is a solution.

I'm assuming ##x## is a complex number.
Oops. Right.
 
PeroK said:
##x = -i## is a solution.

I'm assuming ##x## is a complex number.
Typo on my part, yea sorry.
 
joshmccraney said:
Hi PF!

Let's say we have a matrix that looks like $$
A = \begin{bmatrix}
1-x & 1+x \\
i & 1
\end{bmatrix} \implies\\ \det(A) = (1-x) -i(1+x).
$$
I want ##A## to be singular, so ##\det(A) = 0##. Is this impossible?
I thunk by the Fundamental theorem of Algebra it must have a root. Not that I am disagreeing with the proposed solution x=-i, just a comment.
 
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WWGD said:
I thunk by the Fundamental theorem of Algebra it must have a root. Not that I am disagreeing with the proposed solution x=-i, just a comment.

Whether the determinant can be zero or not depends on whether you get a quadratic, linear equation (in ##x##) or a constant. If, for example, you change the matrix to:
$$
A = \begin{bmatrix}
1-x & 1+x \\
-1 & 1
\end{bmatrix}
$$
Then there is no solution.
 
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PeroK said:
Whether the determinant can be zero or not depends on whether you get a quadratic, linear equation (in ##x##) or a constant. If, for example, you change the matrix to:
$$
A = \begin{bmatrix}
1-x & 1+x \\
-1 & 1
\end{bmatrix}
$$
Then there is no solution.
Ok, good point, I did not consider hat possibility. Edit: But the complex geometry behind is not as obvious as if x were purely Real.
 

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