Size of the friction force felt?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a sled being pulled across snow at a constant velocity. Participants are tasked with analyzing the forces acting on the sled, including the pulling force, normal force, and friction force, while considering the sled's weight.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the pulling force into components and calculating the normal force. There is uncertainty regarding which formulas to apply for kinetic and static friction, particularly in the context of constant velocity.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the normal force and are questioning the next steps for determining the friction force. Guidance has been offered to check arithmetic and consider Newton's First Law in the context of the problem.

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Participants note confusion regarding the application of different friction formulas and the implications of the sled moving at a constant velocity. There is also a mention of needing to draw a free body diagram for clarity.

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Consider a sled being pulled across the snow at a constant velocity. Imagine that a child pulls the sled with a force of 142 N, and that the rope makes an angle of 32 degrees with the horizontal. The sled moves along the snow with a constant velocity. The sled has a weight of 119 N.
a)Draw a diagram showing all the forces exerted on the sled. Break the forces up into components if needed, draw those forces, and come up with equations for those forces.b)What is the size of the normal force felt by the sled?

c)What is the size of the friction force felt by the sled?

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm having trouble finding the answer to c and I'm lost as to where to get started.

F1 = 142 N
F1y = 142sin(32)
F1x = 142cos(32)

b. ) Normal force is 119 - 142sin(32) = 118.4

b.) All the tutorials I found online mention two different formulas for kinetic and static and the nature of the question leaves me scratching my head as to which one I should apply. Should I just simply divide the weight of the sled by the normal force as such 119/118.4 since it is going at a constant velocity?
 
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EricMatthew said:
Consider a sled being pulled across the snow at a constant velocity. Imagine that a child pulls the sled with a force of 142 N, and that the rope makes an angle of 32 degrees with the horizontal. The sled moves along the snow with a constant velocity. The sled has a weight of 119 N.
a)Draw a diagram showing all the forces exerted on the sled. Break the forces up into components if needed, draw those forces, and come up with equations for those forces.b)What is the size of the normal force felt by the sled?

c)What is the size of the friction force felt by the sled?

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm having trouble finding the answer to c and I'm lost as to where to get started.

F1 = 142 N
F1y = 142sin(32)
F1x = 142cos(32)

b. ) Normal force is 119 - 142sin(32) = 118.4

b.) All the tutorials I found online mention two different formulas for kinetic and static and the nature of the question leaves me scratching my head as to which one I should apply. Should I just simply divide the weight of the sled by the normal force as such 119/118.4 since it is going at a constant velocity?

You should check your arithmetic in the normal force calculation before proceeding ...
 
119 - 142sin (32) = 43.751

Whoops, thank you for that.
 
So what would be a good way to proceed with c.?
 
EricMatthew said:
So what would be a good way to proceed with c.?
When the sled if being pulled at constant velocity, what must the friction force be, given the amount of pulling force as described in the problem statement?

If you need to, draw a free body diagram of the sled, and remember Newton's First Law of Motion:

http://teachertech.rice.edu/Participants/louviere/Newton/law1.html
 

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