Sizing Generator for 10hp Petter Diesel Engine | KVA Alternator

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The discussion revolves around sizing a KVA alternator for a 10hp Petter diesel engine intended to drive an AC generator at 240v. Participants explore various factors affecting the selection of the alternator, including engine specifications, power output, and operational efficiency.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks an online calculator or assistance for sizing the correct KVA alternator for a 10hp engine to maximize power output.
  • Another participant notes that specifications suggest a ratio of approximately 1.7 to 1.8 times the KVA for horsepower, citing examples of other diesel engines.
  • Some participants observe variability in KVA ratings for 10hp engines, indicating a need to maintain full load for optimal performance.
  • A participant proposes using a larger alternator available at a low price, questioning if it would be acceptable to load it just enough to match the engine's horsepower.
  • Concerns are raised about the efficiency of running an alternator below its rated capacity and potential issues with mounting and torsional vibration.
  • Another participant inquires about the engine's rated speed and the size of the alternator, emphasizing the importance of maintaining correct speed for frequency stability.
  • Participants discuss the implications of operating the engine at a lower RPM for reliability and the potential impact on power output.
  • One participant provides a calculation method for converting horsepower to watts, suggesting a pulley system for overdriving the generator and cautioning about reduced power at lower RPMs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the appropriate sizing of the alternator, with no consensus reached on the optimal KVA rating or the implications of operating at different speeds. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieve maximum efficiency and power output.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need to consider efficiency losses when running an alternator below its rated capacity and the relationship between engine speed and power output. There are also unresolved questions about the specific mounting and operational challenges posed by using a larger alternator.

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Hi All,

I have a 10hp Petter diesel engine that i want to drive an AC Alternator--Generator 240v AC.

Is there an online calculator for this or can somebody help me size the correct KVA Alternator for it, i want to produce the maximum power i can with this engine to keep it loaded.

Thank You
 
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Looking at the specs for a few generators on-line the HP seems to 1.7 to 1.8 x the kVa.

e.g... 8.5hp diesel engine - maximum rated 5.0 kva
 
Pumblechook

Yeah i also noticed online that some 10hp engines had around 5.0 KVA, then some have more & some less?

I need to keep this 10hp engine fully loaded & produce as much power as i can with it.
 
I have found an alternator that is much bigger than required by the engine but it is at a give away price.

If i was to connect this to the 10hp engine & load it just enough for the engine hp would this be ok?
This way i can get a good load on the engine & let it run at the required rpm.

Any problems with this?
 
What speed is your 10hp engine rated at?

How big is the alternator?

Running an alternator at much below its rating decreases efficiency. You may also have problems mounting the engine to the alternator, and with torsional vibration.
 
Hi,

The engine is rated at 3000rpm but i would like to operate it at 2500rpm max for reliabillity.

The Alternator is rated at 15KVA, i get what your saying about the efficiency.

Thanks.
 
You have to run at the correct speed and keep it fairly constant in order to produce the right frequency.
 
Yes your correct, Frequency is something i neglected to think about--good point!

Thank You
 
1 hp = 746 watts. calculate in efficiency and you get the max watts supported by your engine. As far as running it at a lower speed, you can do that with a pulley system to overdrive your generator. In your case 3000/2500 = a 1:1.2 overdrive ratio. Another thing you need to remember is that your engine is rated for 10 Hp at 3000 RPM, It will produce less at 2500 RPM, so be sure to factor this in as well. You may be suprised to learn that you may only be able to power 3000 watts or so.
 

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