Sizing Power Supply in Electrical Cabinet

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the considerations for selecting a properly sized power supply for control applications, specifically focusing on devices such as pushbutton lights, alarm horns, and solenoid valves. Participants explore factors like current requirements, inrush currents, and the relationship between AC and DC power supplies.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests considering both peak inrush current and average holding current when selecting a power supply.
  • Another participant recommends making a list of all devices and their current requirements, noting the importance of accounting for large solenoids and motors due to their inrush currents.
  • A participant questions whether simply adding up the total current is sufficient for selecting a power supply and seeks clarification on converting inrush current from VA to Amps for a 3-phase system.
  • There is a discussion about the distinction between DC and AC power supplies, with a participant providing a formula for calculating Amps from VA for DC supplies and mentioning the complexity of 3-phase AC calculations.
  • A participant clarifies their need for a 24VDC power supply fed by 120VAC and emphasizes the importance of selecting the power supply based on total current requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the calculations and considerations for sizing the power supply. There is no consensus on the best approach, and multiple viewpoints on how to handle inrush currents and total current calculations remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in converting VA to Amps, particularly in the context of 3-phase systems. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity on whether the power supply is DC or AC.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for electrical engineers, technicians, and designers involved in control system design, particularly those working with power supply sizing and current calculations for various devices.

Som_P
Messages
6
Reaction score
0
What things do I need to consider when selecting a proper sized power supply? Basically this is control power, ouputs are pushbutton lights, alarm horn, and solenoid valves. Do I look at the peak inrush current? Average holding current?
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
You literally may want to make a list of all of the devices being fed and add their current requirements- in our systems this exercise is part of our design requirements. Be wary of large solenoids and motors as they may have large inrush currents - as you have alluded to.
 
So basically I would be adding up the total current? Then simply select a power supply with enough current capacity? If a spec sheet list inrush current in VA, what formula would I apply to find Amps(A)? This is 3-phase by the way.
 
Last edited:
Yep, but when you said power supply I was think of a DC supply - is it DC with a 3 Phase AC source? Or describe what it is a little more.

For DC the Amps will just be x VA / Voltage. EG 300VA and 24 V ... 12.5A...

3 ph AC is a little more complicated - but for VA it will depend if the device is being connected as a 3 phase device or a single phase device. Single phase same as above, 3 phase √3*V* A(in one phase)
 
I apologize for not being clear, well not proof reading my comments. Anyway, I need to get a 24VDC power supply, this is being fed by 120VAC. My main question was to select the 24VDC power supply as it relates to total current?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
Replies
21
Views
8K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
5K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K