http://www.matmor.unam.mx/eventos/loops07/talks/PL5/Smolin.pdf http://www.matmor.unam.mx/eventos/loops07/talks/PL5/Smolin.mp3 The Loops 07 website continues gradually posting the slides and audio of the talks and several very interesting new ones are now online as of 14 August. I just listened to the Smolin talk while scrolling along thru the slides and was impressed by how much progress Smolin's braidy gang has made even in the brief time since the telephone seminar. braidy particle physics suddenly is looking more real it is also very much on the spinfoam side AFAICS rather than the canonical LQG (hamiltonian etc.) side. also very much on the embedded side of things. like so much of the exciting new work that has come out there is no dependence AFAICS on a discrete volume spectrum (which some people have been worrying about recently) Please explain if I am wrong, but this seems to be a completely different picture of space, of spacetime, and the tangles in it we call matter----completely different from 1990s canonical LQG.