Solution for a second-order differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation, specifically focusing on finding a function x(t) given a general form of f(t). Participants explore various methods and concepts related to differential equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster inquires about methods to determine x(t) regardless of the form of f(t). Some participants suggest the use of Laplace transforms, while others discuss the associated homogeneous equation and the characteristic equation. There is also mention of the variation of parameters method for finding particular solutions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into methods like Laplace transforms and variation of parameters. There is a recognition of the need for foundational knowledge to approach the problem effectively, and some guidance has been offered regarding the associated homogeneous equation.

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One participant notes that they have not yet learned about Laplace transforms, indicating a potential gap in knowledge that could affect their understanding of the problem. The discussion also reflects on the complexity of the calculations involved in the methods mentioned.

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Homework Statement
Second order ODE
Relevant Equations
x‘’(t)+4x’(t)+8x(t) = f(t)
I wish to know if there is a method to work out x(t).
[No matter which form f(t) is]
Thank you~
 
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You know PF: what's your attempt ? Know about Laplace transforms ?
 
BvU said:
You know PF: what's your attempt ? Know about Laplace transforms ?
Oh, I haven‘t learned that^v^
Do you mean this chapter will help me understand this problem?
I can try to learn it~
 
It gives you a formal, general method to find a solution, yes.
 
First, the "associated homogenous equation" is x''+ 8x'+ 4x= 0 which has "characteristic equation" r^2+ 8r+ 4= 0. Solve that by "completing the square": r^2+ 8r+ 16- 16+ 4= (r+ 4)^2- 12= 0 so (r+ 4)^2= 12, r= -4\pm2\sqrt{3}. The general solution to the "associate homogeneous equation" is e^{-4x}\left(Ae^{2x\sqrt{3}}+ Be^{-2x\sqrt{3}}\right).

Now use "variation of parameters". We look for a solution to the entire equation of the form y(x)= e^{-4x}\left(u(x)e^{2x\sqrt{3}}+ v(x)e^{-2x\sqrt{3}}\right). That is, we let the "parameters", A and B, vary. Surely That method is given in your textbook. You can also read about it at http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/VariationofParameters.aspx.

The calculations are tedious but doable! The result will be an integral in f(x) that you add to the general solution to the homogeneous equation.
 
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