neelakash Messages 491 Reaction score 1 Thread starter Jun 12, 2010 #1 Homework Statement Given [tex]\frac{1}{| \int\ f(\ x)\ g(\ x)\ d\ x\ |}=\int \frac{\ f(\ x)}{\ g(\ x)}\ d\ x[/tex] Does the above put any condition on f(x) and g(x)? Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a SolutionThe | | in the denominator reminds me of Darboux inequality...In fact it looks impossible to solve analytically...Can it be solved numerically?
Homework Statement Given [tex]\frac{1}{| \int\ f(\ x)\ g(\ x)\ d\ x\ |}=\int \frac{\ f(\ x)}{\ g(\ x)}\ d\ x[/tex] Does the above put any condition on f(x) and g(x)? Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a SolutionThe | | in the denominator reminds me of Darboux inequality...In fact it looks impossible to solve analytically...Can it be solved numerically?
l'Hôpital Messages 255 Reaction score 0 Jun 12, 2010 #2 What if you take the derivative of both sides? [tex] \frac{-f(x) g(x) }{| \int\ f(x)\ g(x)\ dx\ |^2}= \frac{\ f(\ x)}{\ g(\ x)}[/tex] Assuming f(x) =/= 0 and simplifying with a little algebra [tex] (g(x))^2 = - (\int\ f(x)\ g(x)\ dx )^2[/tex] Which would imply that g(x) = 0, which is impossible. So, no such function exists, unless we consider complex functions.
What if you take the derivative of both sides? [tex] \frac{-f(x) g(x) }{| \int\ f(x)\ g(x)\ dx\ |^2}= \frac{\ f(\ x)}{\ g(\ x)}[/tex] Assuming f(x) =/= 0 and simplifying with a little algebra [tex] (g(x))^2 = - (\int\ f(x)\ g(x)\ dx )^2[/tex] Which would imply that g(x) = 0, which is impossible. So, no such function exists, unless we consider complex functions.
neelakash Messages 491 Reaction score 1 Jun 12, 2010 #3 Remembering |x|=x if x>0 and |x|=-x if x<0,there is another option: [tex] <br /> (g(x))^2 = (\int\ f(x)\ g(x)\ dx )^2<br /> [/tex] This leads to [tex]\ g(\ x)=\ e^{\pm\int\ f(\ x)\ d\ x}[/tex] Do you agree?
Remembering |x|=x if x>0 and |x|=-x if x<0,there is another option: [tex] <br /> (g(x))^2 = (\int\ f(x)\ g(x)\ dx )^2<br /> [/tex] This leads to [tex]\ g(\ x)=\ e^{\pm\int\ f(\ x)\ d\ x}[/tex] Do you agree?
l'Hôpital Messages 255 Reaction score 0 Jun 12, 2010 #4 Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Though it should be g(x) = e^int f(x). Not f(x).
neelakash Messages 491 Reaction score 1 Jun 12, 2010 #5 Personally I expected g(x) to have some lower bound;and that looked plausible for Darboux inequality says:| integral |>= Maximum value of integrand*length of the contour... Can that be a way? Yea...that was a typo..I am fixing it
Personally I expected g(x) to have some lower bound;and that looked plausible for Darboux inequality says:| integral |>= Maximum value of integrand*length of the contour... Can that be a way? Yea...that was a typo..I am fixing it