Undergrad Solution to Brachistochrone Problem

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The discussion centers on the request for a comprehensive solution to the Brachistochrone problem as presented by Newton, emphasizing the need for clear explanations. Participants express frustration over the lack of understanding of existing resources, particularly the Wikipedia article, which does not provide a complete solution to the differential equation involved. There is a consensus that while the proof is available, personal engagement in solving the problem is crucial for comprehension. Suggestions for additional resources are made, but the focus remains on the challenge of grasping the existing explanations. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the difficulty of understanding complex mathematical concepts without thorough guidance.
A Physics Enthusiast
Can anybody post a full solution of the Brachistochrone problem provided by Newton (with full explanations) ?

Or, any source about the same would be much helpful.

Thank you in advance !
 
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A Physics Enthusiast said:
Can anybody post a full solution of the Brachistochrone problem provided by Newton (with full explanations) ?

Or, any source about the same would be much helpful.

Thank you in advance !
Have you tried Googling your thread title? :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Have you tried Googling your thread title? :smile:
Yes. But, I don't think I understand the solution of Newton provided in wikipedia.
:blushing:
 
A Physics Enthusiast said:
Can anybody post a full solution of the Brachistochrone problem provided by Newton (with full explanations) ?

The short answer to this is no. We can try to help you understand how to solve this problem, but you still have to do the work.

A Physics Enthusiast said:
I don't think I understand the solution of Newton provided in wikipedia.

What are you having trouble understanding?
 
A Physics Enthusiast said:
Yes. But, I don't think I understand the solution of Newton provided in wikipedia.
:blushing:
If you can describe what you are having trouble understanding then we can probably help.
 
PeterDonis said:
The short answer to this is no. We can try to help you understand how to solve this problem, but you still have to do the work.
LOL The proof is already there. All I need is a good resource to understand it.

PeterDonis said:
What are you having trouble understanding?
Pretty much everything. I think I understand the Fermat's principle method (till the DE). But, no solution of the DE is provided in wikipedia to conclude that it is indeed a cycloid.

Mind referring a source ?
 
A Physics Enthusiast said:
The proof is already there. All I need is a good resource to understand it.

The best way to understand it is to solve it yourself. Having a known solution as a guide is often helpful, yes.

A Physics Enthusiast said:
I think I understand the Fermat's principle method (till the DE). But, no solution of the DE is provided in wikipedia to conclude that it is indeed a cycloid.

Which Wikipedia article are you looking at?
 
This might help:

 
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A Physics Enthusiast said:
I think I understand the Fermat's principle method (till the DE).

Which DE?
 
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A Physics Enthusiast said:
Can anybody post a full solution of the Brachistochrone problem provided by Newton (with full explanations) ?
A Physics Enthusiast said:
LOL The proof is already there. All I need is a good resource to understand it.

I'm confused. If we typed out the proof - which would be the same one in Wikipedia - how would that help you better understand it?
 

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