Solution to Coupled Second Order ODE's

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The original poster attempts to solve two coupled second order ordinary differential equations (ODEs) with the goal of converting them into state space form. The problem involves time-dependent variables and constant coefficients, with additional equations mentioned but deemed irrelevant to the immediate discussion.

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  • Participants discuss the approach of substituting one variable into the equation of another to simplify the system. There is a concern about potentially creating a redundant state space matrix. Questions are raised about the validity of transitioning from second order to first order equations in state space representation.

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Some participants affirm the approach taken by the original poster, while others provide clarification on the nature of the equations involved. There is acknowledgment of standard methods for solving such systems, suggesting that the discussion is exploring established techniques without reaching a consensus on the specific approach.

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There is mention of a miscommunication regarding the type of equations being discussed, with participants clarifying that they are indeed coupled ODEs. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the validity of their method, indicating a need for further exploration of the topic.

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I'm trying to 'solve' two coupled second order ODE's with the intent of putting them in state space. My specific problem is more complex and includes additional equations which are irrelevant. Essentially I can solve the problem if I know the solution to this. x1 and x2 are time dependent variables and A-H are constant coefficients.

I initially thought I could simply plug x2 into x1's equation to obtain one equation and then x1 into x2's to obtain the other equation. However, I feel like this would create a redundant state space matrix which would be otherwise useless. Really all I need is these two in reduced state space

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This looks like a correct approach. Is there a question?

Incidentally, these are coupled ODEs, not PDEs.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
Incidentally, these are coupled ODEs, not PDEs.
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I was just wondering if this was a valid approach to state space from two second order equations to four first orders. I appreciate the input and if this is valid then all is well. Thanks! Ah yes , most definitely ODE's, I must have mis-typed the 'O'... twice.
 
QuantumLollipop said:
I was just wondering if this was a valid approach to state space from two second order equations to four first orders. I appreciate the input and if this is valid then all is well. Thanks! Ah yes , most definitely ODE's, I must have mis-typed the 'O'... twice.
You should be made aware that there is a standard way of analytically solving a set of linear coupled first order ODEs like this.

You should also be made aware that the method you so cleverly developed so far (no sarcasm intended) is also a standard method of analyzing coupled higher order ODEs. Welcome to the world of "reinventing the wheel." I've personally visited that world lots of times.

Chet
 
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