Solution to Gravitation Problem - Third Mass on Perpendicular Bisector

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The discussion focuses on solving a gravitational problem involving three point masses, where two identical masses are fixed and a third mass is placed along the perpendicular bisector. The gravitational force on the third mass is derived using the Pythagorean theorem and the gravitational force formula, leading to the expression F = (2GMmx) / (x^2 + R^2)^(3/2). Participants discuss resolving the forces into x and y components, noting that the y components cancel out due to symmetry, confirming that the net force is directed inward along the perpendicular bisector. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding vector components and their contributions to the resultant force.
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Homework Statement



Two identical point masses, each of mass M, always remain separated by a distance of 2R. A third mass m, is then placed a distance x along the perpendicular bisector of the original two masses. (Picture attached.) Show that the gravitational force on the third mass is directed inward along the perpendicular bisector and has a magnititude of :

F = \frac{2GMmx}{(x^2+R^2)^\frac{3}{2}}


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F=G\frac{m1m2}{r^2}


The Attempt at a Solution



First I figured out the magnitude of the force of gravitation between one of the two mass Ms and the third mass m. To find the distance between them I used the Pythagorean theorem where:

r^2 = x^2 + R^2

plugging this and the two masses into the gravitation formula:

F = G\frac{Mm}{x^2+R^2}

That is the magnitude of the force of gravitation between each M and m. To find the magnitude and direction of the total force I should find the vector sum of these two forces? This is where I end up lost. The Pythagorean theorem won't work here. Can anyone help point me in the right direction? I know that after i find the magnitude of the resultant force I can use arctan to find the direction.
 

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Hint: use vectors for the attractive force applied by each mass M on the smaller mass 'm'. Find the resultant of these two attractive forces on 'm'.
 
You need to resolve the force into components in the x- and y directions. This will involve sines and cosines in right triangles. Geometrically, what is the cosine of the angle between the force and the bisector?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
You need to resolve the force into components in the x- and y directions. This will involve sines and cosines in right triangles. Geometrically, what is the cosine of the angle between the force and the bisector?

Chet

so if i take the force between one of the two Ms and m and break it into components, its y component would be:

\frac{GMmSin(theta)}{x^2+R^2}

and its x component would be:

\frac{GMmCos(theta)}{X^2+R^2}

then i do the same of the other force and add the components of the two forces so that the y components would cancel out and become 0 (same magnitude except one is above and one below the x axis) and the net x component would be \frac{2GMmCos(theta)}{X^2+R^2}

Then the resultant vector would be the radical of that squared? but that doesn't leave me with the answer I am supposed to be getting. I am still missing something =[ am I at least heading in the right direction? I am so lost lol
 
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so if i take the force between one of the two Ms and m and break it into components, its y component would be:

\frac{GMmSin(theta)}{x^2+R^2}

and its x component would be:

\frac{GMmCos(theta)}{X^2+R^2}

then i do the same of the other force and add the components of the two forces so that the y components would cancel out and become 0 (same magnitude except one is above and one below the x axis) and the net x component would be


\frac{2GMmCos(theta)}{X^2+R^2}

Then the resultant vector would be the radical of that squared? but that doesn't leave me with the answer I am supposed to be getting. I am still missing something =[ am I at least heading in the right direction? I am so lost lol
Yes. You're heading in the right direction. Now, what is cosθ in terms of the sides of a right triangle? (Hint: there was a right triangle involved when you used the Pythagorean theorem).
 
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ahh i see!

Cos(theta) = \frac{adj}{hyp} = \frac{x}{(R^2+x^2)^\frac{1}{2}}

this would make the magnitude of the force

\frac{2GMmx}{(x^2+R^2)^\frac{3}{2}}

thank you! :)

I've proved the magnitude, is showing the y components cancel out enough to prove the direction? or do i have to use arctan (y component/ x component) ?
 
toothpaste666 said:
ahh i see!

Cos(theta) = \frac{adj}{hyp} = \frac{x}{(R^2+x^2)^\frac{1}{2}}

this would make the magnitude of the force

\frac{2GMmx}{(x^2+R^2)^\frac{3}{2}}

thank you! :)
I've proved the magnitude, is showing the y components cancel out enough to prove the direction?
Sure. You can see by symmetry that the y components cancel out.
 
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