Solutions for x<0: Konig's Method

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In summary, the speaker has solved a differential equation for x using a coordinate transformation and substitution. They are unsure of how to find solutions for x<0 and are considering using natural logs and handling the square root of negative numbers. The speaker also mentions a potential issue with changing the sign of x under the radical and the use of imaginary numbers.
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Hi,

I have solved a differential equation (1) for x, where i think is a real variable.

(1) [tex] \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{x^{\frac{3}{2}} (1+x)^2} [/tex]

And get a solution

[tex] y(x) = \frac{2}{\sqrt{x}} - \frac{\sqrt{x}}{(1+x)} - 3 \arctan{\sqrt{x}} [/tex]

Now, i want to find solutions for x<0, and i have said that the above is a solution for x>0.

So far i have simply done a coord transformation x→-x and then solved this equation

[tex] \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{x^{\frac{3}{2}} (1-x)^2} [/tex]

and then substituted in "-x" under my square roots.

Is this a correct way of finding x<0?

Konig.
 
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Konig said:
Hi,

I have solved a differential equation (1) for x, where i think is a real variable.

(1) [tex] \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{x^{\frac{3}{2}} (1+x)^2} [/tex]

And get a solution

[tex] y(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}} - \frac{\sqrt{x}}{(1+x)} - 3 \arctan{\sqrt{x}} [/tex]

Now, i want to find solutions for x<0, and i have said that the above is a solution for x>0.

So far i have simply done a coord transformation x→-x and then solved this equation

[tex] \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{x^{\frac{3}{2}} (1-x)^2} [/tex]

and then substituted in "-x" under my square roots.

Is this a correct way of finding x<0?

Konig.
What do you plan to do about the square root of negative numbers?
 
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SammyS said:
What do you plan to do about the square root of negative numbers?

Konig said:
and then substituted in "-x" under my square roots.

Konig.

So [tex] \sqrt{-x}, x<0 [/tex] will give a positive answer.

Although I am not sure what to do about the [tex] x^{\frac{3}{2}} [/tex] part of the equation.

The answer should have natural logs and some x terms.

the solution of [tex] \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{x^{\frac{3}{2}} (1-x)^2} [/tex]

gives a similar answer to what i need which gives me hope. But I am not sure what the do with the first terms, eg there signs etc.

thanks.
 
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You can't arbitrarily change the sign of x under the radical.

This will show the problem:
[itex]\displaystyle\sqrt{x}=\sqrt{(-1)(-1)x}[/itex]
[itex]\displaystyle =\left(\sqrt{-1}\,\right)\sqrt{-x}[/itex]​

What will you do with [itex]\sqrt{-1}\,?[/itex] -- even if you call it i .
 

1. What is Konig's Method for finding solutions when x is less than 0?

Konig's Method is a mathematical approach used to find solutions for equations where x is less than 0. It involves using the properties of negative numbers and manipulating the equation to isolate x.

2. How is Konig's Method different from other methods for solving equations?

Konig's Method is specifically designed for equations where x is less than 0, whereas other methods may be more general and can be used for any type of equation. It also utilizes the concept of negative numbers, which may not be used in other methods.

3. Can Konig's Method be used for any type of equation with x<0?

No, Konig's Method is most effective for solving linear equations with x<0. It may not work for more complex equations, such as quadratic or exponential equations.

4. Are there any drawbacks to using Konig's Method?

One potential drawback of Konig's Method is that it may not be as intuitive or straightforward as other methods for solving equations. It also may not work for all types of equations with x<0.

5. How can I know if I have applied Konig's Method correctly?

If you have correctly applied Konig's Method, you should end up with a solution for x that satisfies the original equation. You can check your answer by plugging it back into the equation and seeing if it makes the equation true.

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