Solve Basic Torque Problem: Find Downward Accel with Mass m & Radius r

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a hoop of mass m and radius r, which is released while a cord is held, causing it to roll without slipping. Participants are asked to derive the equations for force and torque acting on the hoop to determine its downward acceleration. Key equations include torque (Torque = I alpha) and the moment of inertia for the hoop (I = m*r^2), with an emphasis on the relationship between tension, gravity, and acceleration. A free body diagram is suggested to clarify the forces involved, particularly the tension and gravitational force acting on the hoop. The thread highlights the challenge of connecting these concepts to find the desired acceleration.
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Homework Statement



a hoop of mass m and radius r has a cord wrapped around it the hoop is released while holding the string the hoop rolls without slippage
write out force and torque eqns on the hoop
given m, r determine downward accel


Homework Equations



Torque = I alpha
Torque = r x F

The Attempt at a Solution




Torque = I * alpha
I of hoop = m*r^2
alpha = r*a

r x F = m*r^3 * a


this F must have relationship to gravity and tension right? if it were ma then my as cancel

Fy should be ma = Tension - mg ?

im lost at this point, thanks for any help
 
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oreosama said:

Homework Statement



a hoop of mass m and radius r has a cord wrapped around it the hoop is released while holding the string the hoop rolls without slippage
write out force and torque eqns on the hoop
given m, r determine downward accel

Homework Equations



Torque = I alpha
Torque = r x F

The Attempt at a Solution



Torque = I * alpha
I of hoop = m*r^2
alpha = r*a

r x F = m*r^3 * a

this F must have relationship to gravity and tension right? if it were ma then my as cancel

Fy should be ma = Tension - mg ?

im lost at this point, thanks for any help
Draw a free body diagram for the hoop.

Torque is calculated about some reference point. What point are you choosing?

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