Solve Beer's Law: Find Phenolphthalein Concentration from 0.80 Absorbance Unit

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To find the concentration of phenolphthalein from an absorbance of 0.80 at 560nm using Beer's Law, the equation A = e*b*c must be applied. The path length (b) is typically 1 cm, while the molar absorptivity (e) for phenolphthalein is estimated to be around 1770 M^-1 cm^-1 at 20°C and basic conditions. However, the problem lacks sufficient information to calculate the concentration directly, as the exact value of e may vary with temperature and pH. The discussion highlights the need for additional details, prompting the user to consult their lab instructor for clarification. Ultimately, the calculation cannot proceed without the molar absorptivity value.
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Homework Statement


If I measure an absorbance at 560nm of 0.80 absorbance units for a solution of the basic form of phenolphthalein, what is the concentration of phenolphthalein?

Homework Equations


Beer's Law -- A(sub lamda)=e*b*c

The Attempt at a Solution



The question is asking for concentration, so I'll need to solve for c. I think A is the absorbance units, but beyond that I believe I'm missing information.

b is supposed to be the path length, which I believe is the width of whatever cuvet is being used (the problem doesn't specify what that is). e is molar absorbtivity, but isn't that a constant?

Is this problem able to be solved as it is or do I need more information?

Thanks!
 
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TrueStar said:
b is supposed to be the path length, which I believe is the width of whatever cuvet is being used (the problem doesn't specify what that is). e is molar absorbtivity, but isn't that a constant?

Cuvet length is 1 cm by convention. Molar absorptivity is going to vary with temperature and pH as you can see here:

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/ol016823q

Unfortunately they don't report a value for phenolphthalein but estimating from Fig. 6, e should be about 1770/(M.cm) at 20C and basic conditions.
 
Thank you for the reply. It seems there was no way to calculate an answer based on the question alone. I was worried I was missing something obvious.

I will ask my lab instructor about it next week.
 
presbyope said:
Cuvet length is 1 cm by convention.

I agree 1 cm is a common cuvette size, but calling it a "convention" is too far fetched.
 
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Borek said:
I agree 1 cm is a common cuvette size, but calling it a "convention" is too far fetched.

Quite right, I stand corrected.
 
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