Solve Catenary Problem: Minimize Potential Energy

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The discussion focuses on solving the catenary problem, specifically minimizing the potential energy of a rope of length L and mass M suspended between two points (xA, yA) and (xB, yB). Participants emphasize the importance of formulating the integral for potential energy, as indicated in equation (1) of the problem statement, and integrating the differential arc length ds = sqrt(dx² + dy²) to establish constraints. The solution requires a clear understanding of the relationship between the rope's shape and its potential energy, which is a well-documented topic in mathematical literature.

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Homework Statement



Suppose we have a rope of length L and total mass M. Suppose we x its ends at points
(xA; yA) and (xB; yB). We want to determine the shape the rope makes, hanging under the
influence of gravity. The rope is motionless, with a shape parametrised by y(x) or equivalently,
x(y), where x denotes the horizontal coordinate and y the vertical one. We are looking for the
shape which minimises the potential energy of the rope.Image below
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Homework Equations



I'm guessing

ds = sqrt ( dx^2 + dy^2) can be used.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Integrate ds over s, and thus it is...

integral ds = S [ from Yb to Ya]

Xb and Xa would be zero as the horizontal length does not change.

As you can see...I'm a bit confused. I don't know how to parametise dx and dy, or can I just use a polar coordinate system?
 
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BubblesAreUs said:
Integrate ds over s, and thus it is...
This just gives you the length of the rope, which you know and should impose as a constraint. You need to find an integral that describes the potential energy and minimize it under that constraint.
 
The integral for the potential energy was given as eq(1) of the problem statement. All that is necessary is to minimize that. This is a well known problem, written up in countless places in the literature.

Your guess,

BubblesAreUs said:
ds = sqrt ( dx^2 + dy^2)

was already incorporated in writing eq(1).
 

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