Solve Definite Integrals: Find F'(2)

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The problem involves finding the derivative of a definite integral defined as F(x) = ∫₀ˣ √(t³ + 1) dt, specifically evaluating F'(2). Participants are discussing the application of the fundamental theorem of calculus and the correct interpretation of the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the integral and its derivative, questioning the validity of integration techniques such as substitution and the reverse chain rule. There are attempts to clarify the application of the fundamental theorem of calculus.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the integral and its derivative. Some participants express uncertainty about their approaches, while others provide guidance on the correct application of calculus principles. There is no explicit consensus on the final answer, but some participants acknowledge correct reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of clearly identifying expressions and steps in their work, as well as the potential confusion arising from incorrect integration techniques. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in mathematical communication.

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Homework Statement


I'm not sure if I'm doing this right or not:

If F(x)=\int_0^x{\sqrt{t^3+1}dt}, then find F'(2)

The Attempt at a Solution


\int_0^x1/2(t3+1)-1/2*3t2

1/2(x3+1)-1/2*3x2

1/2(23+1)-1/2*3(2)2

Answer=2
 
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Think back to the (first) fundamental theorem of calculus.

By the way, your integration is wrong. What leads you to assume that

<br /> \int_0^x{\sqrt{t^3+1}dt}<br />

is equal to
<br /> \int_0^x{1/2(t3+1)-1/2*3t2}<br /> ??

It looks like you were thinking of a u-substitution, but that doesn't work.
Letting u = t^3+1, du=3t^2 dt, so dt = \frac{du}{3t^2}
You would then have to substitute this dt into your integral for a valid u-sub, but you notice that you would still have an expression in terms of t, so you cannot integrate with respect to u.
 
I was thinking of integration by reverse chain rule :confused:
 
Reverse chain rule is substitution. It doesn't work. As Knissp said, you can't integrate that function. You don't want the integral anyway, you want the derivative of the integral. Fundamental theorem of calculus.
 
Still not sure if I'm doing it right

\int_0^x{\sqrt{t^3+1}dt}

{\sqrt{x^3+1}}

{\sqrt{2^3+1}}-{\sqrt{0^3+1}}

3-1=2
 
that is correct
 
Uh, not quite. Suppose F'(t)=sqrt(t^3+1), i.e. the antiderivative is F(t). Then the integral from 0 to x of sqrt(t^3-1)=F(x)-F(0), right? Find d/dx of that. The derivative of F(0) is zero, correct? It's a constant.
 
w3390 said:
that is correct

It is not.
 
DollarBill said:
Still not sure if I'm doing it right

\int_0^x{\sqrt{t^3+1}dt}

{\sqrt{x^3+1}}

{\sqrt{2^3+1}}-{\sqrt{0^3+1}}

3-1=2
I concur with Dick.

Also, it would be helpful if you identified the things you're working with, rather than write a bunch of disconnected expressions.

F(x) = \int_0^x{\sqrt{t^3+1}dt}
So, F&#039;(x) = \sqrt{x^3+1}
So far, so good. Now, what is F'(2)?
 
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Ok, thanks got the answer (3). Yea, I probably should write out the expressions more often
 
  • #11
Yea, I probably should write out the expressions more often

should read

Yea, I should write out the expressions more often.
 

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