Solve Drag Force Problem: Find Time to Reach 2% of Orig. Speed

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The discussion focuses on calculating the time it takes to reach 2% of the original speed when diving into water, considering a drag force proportional to velocity. The initial approach incorrectly assumes constant acceleration, leading to erroneous results. Participants suggest using net force equations and integrating to account for changing acceleration due to varying velocity. The correct method involves setting up the equation with partial derivatives to solve for time accurately. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the need to reconsider assumptions about acceleration in the context of drag forces.
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Homework Statement


You dive straight down into a pool of water. You hit the water with a speed of 6.5 m/s, and your mass is 65 kg.

Assuming a drag force of the form F_D=cv=(-1.2*10^4 \tfrac{kg}{s})*v, how long does it take you to reach 2% of your original speed? (Ignore any effects of buoyancy.)


Homework Equations


ma=F_D-mg
v(t)=v_0+at


The Attempt at a Solution


ma=F_D-mg
a=\frac{F_D}{m}-g
a=\frac{(-1.2*10^4)*-6.5}{65}-9.8=1190.2

v(t)=v_0+at
-6.5*.02=-6.5+1190.2t
t=5.4*10^{-3}

Logically, the answer does not make sense, nor is it correct. Where did I go wrong?
 
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You have assumed acceleration is constant. In your equation, a = \frac{cv}{m} - g

And then you used constant acceleration formulae. However, think about what happens as v changes.
 
Rake-MC said:
You have assumed acceleration is constant. In your equation, a = \frac{cv}{m} - g

And then you used constant acceleration formulae. However, think about what happens as v changes.

Ah, yes. As velocity decreases, the acceleration does as well. This is problematic for me, however, as I have not worked with non-constant accelerations. How should I go about solving this problem?
 
Try this:
solve for Fnet first, before acceleration.
 
If you mean:
F_{net}=cv-mg

I can solve for it, but do I use 6.5 as my value for v? I still don't know what to do with the resulting value? Doesn't that still have the same problem of assuming constant acceleration?
 
well think about this:

F = m \frac{v}{t}so m \frac{v_s}{t} = cv - mg

where v_s is the one which is at 2%
re arrange to get t.

I hope I didn't make any careless mistakes I was up all night
 
F_{net}=cv-mg=(-1.2*10^4)(-6.5)-65(9.8)=77363

F_{net}=m\tfrac{v_s}{t}
77363=65(\tfrac{0.13}{t}
t=1.09*10^{-4}

This is also an incorrect answer =/
 
Shameless bump - still haven't resolved this question :(
 
You have to use partial derivatives.

FD-mg = ma
cv-mg = m dv/dt
cv/m-g=dv/dt
integral(dt)|0,t = (dv/ (cv/m)-g)
 
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Ahh catamara is totally right, we were on the right track though
 
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