Solve Free Electron Laser Homework Equations

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The discussion revolves around finding the approximate wavelength in the context of a free electron laser, specifically focusing on the relationship between the electron's motion and the emitted light's wavelength. The subject area includes concepts from relativistic physics and wave mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the electron's velocity and the emitted wavelength, with attempts to incorporate Doppler effects. Questions arise regarding the differences in distances traveled by the electron and the light, as well as the implications of relativistic effects on the wavelength calculation.

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There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, with some participants suggesting approximations and alternative expressions for β. Guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of terms to arrive at a solution, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can use or share. The discussion includes assumptions about the relativistic nature of the electrons involved.

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Homework Equations


2. (b)

I didn't understand how can I find the app. wavelength


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried : the electron move over λu with velocity β so the wavelength is λ≈λu
but its not the right answer.

my lecturer told me I should consider also the dopler

I only know that the answer is :
λ≈λu /(2*γ2)

γ= gamma
THANK YOU!
 

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Raz91 said:
I tried : the electron move over λu with velocity β so the wavelength is λ≈λu
This is the distance the light can travel while the electrons move by 1 structure length - but then the electrons moved forwards as well. What is the difference between those two distances?
 
the electron moves λu while the light moves λ≈λu /β
so the difference is λu [1/β-1]

so how can I use this fact to find the wave length?

I tried use the approximation β≈1-1q/(2*γ^2) for ultra-relativistic electrons
but still didnt get the right answer...thank you
 
1/β is also 1/(1+β-1) where β-1 is small, so you can express that fraction as ~1-β+1
That should lead to the right answer.
 

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