Solve Integral: How to \int\sqrt{x^{2}+2}/x

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The discussion revolves around the integral \(\int\sqrt{x^{2}+2}/x\), which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integration techniques involving trigonometric substitution.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore trigonometric substitution with \(x = \sqrt{2} \sin \vartheta\) and discuss the resulting expressions. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the substitutions and the presence of sine functions in both the numerator and denominator.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the setup and correct mistakes in the substitution process. Some participants provide hints about relevant trigonometric identities, while others express confusion over the original problem setup and the transformations made.

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There is mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the original problem, with participants noting discrepancies in the expressions used during the substitution process. This highlights the importance of clear communication in problem-solving.

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Problem:
\int\sqrt{x^{2}+2}/x

Attempt:
Let x= \sqrt{2} sin\vartheta
dx= \sqrt{2} cos\vartheta d\vartheta

from this I got

\int\sqrt{2}sin\theta\sqrt{2}cos\theta/\sqrt{2}cos\theta

I think inverse substitution was not the right way to solve this problem...
any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
 
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930R93 said:
Problem:
\int\sqrt{x^{2}+2}/x

Attempt:
Let x= \sqrt{2} sin\vartheta
dx= \sqrt{2} cos\vartheta d\vartheta

That's fine.

from this I got

\int\sqrt{2}sin\theta\sqrt{2}cos\theta/\sqrt{2}cos\theta

That's not fine. If x=\sqrt{2}\sin(\theta) then shouldn't there be a sine function in the denominator? And why is there a sine function in the numerator?
 
Tom Mattson said:
That's not fine. If x=\sqrt{2}\sin(\theta) then shouldn't there be a sine function in the denominator? And why is there a sine function in the numerator?


Yikes! I saw (2-x^2)^(1/2) in the numerator and used a trig identity to simplify the top...
so after you pointed this out i corrected the mistake and am left with nothing (from my point of view) i can simplify... i have root(2)*root(sin^2(O) +1)*root(2)*cos(O)dO over (root(2)*sinO)

umm...
 
930R93 said:
Yikes! I saw (2-x^2)^(1/2)

That's not what you had in the original problem. What's going on here? :confused:
 
If the posted question is the one you want to solve, think about the the trig identity relating tan and sec.
 
aostraff said:
If the posted question is the one you want to solve, think about the the trig identity relating tan and sec.

Hey thanks! I am not sure why I didn't see this. I got it! thanks again!
 
Tom Mattson said:
That's not what you had in the original problem. What's going on here? :confused:

Sorry, it was a mistake on my end; I didn't give a very clear question. I used sine and cosine instead of tan and sec. whoops! it got it though but thanks for trying to help me, ill have to get better at asking if i want any help lol. :-p

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