Solve Linear Equation: Mother's Age w/ 2 Sons

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The problem involves determining the mother's current age based on the relationship between her age and the ages of her two sons. The mother’s age is twice the sum of her sons' ages, and in five years, she will be 20 years older than the sum of their ages. Initial calculations suggested the mother is 30 years old and the sons collectively are 15, but this did not satisfy the future age condition. The discussion emphasizes the need to account for the sons aging as well, which affects the sum of their ages in five years. Clarifying the equations and relationships is crucial for solving the problem correctly.
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Homework Statement



The age of a mother is twice the sum of ages of her 2 sons. 5 years later the mother will be 20 years older than the sum of ages of her sons. What age is the mother today?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



M - mother ; S1 = son1 ; S2 = son2. S = S1 + S2.

http://sketchtoy.com/18509468

Thanks.
 
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blunted said:

Homework Statement



The age of a mother is twice the sum of ages of her 2 sons. 5 years later the mother will be 20 years older than the sum of ages of her sons. What age is the mother today?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



M - mother ; S1 = son1 ; S2 = son2. S = S1 + S2.

http://sketchtoy.com/18509468

Thanks.

You can check your solution on your own. Do the values you found for the ages of the mother and the two sons satisfy the conditions given in the problem?
 
I did all that, of course. But I still have an inkling that I'm doing something wrong.
 
What do you get for the mother's age now?
What do you get for the sum of the ages of the two sons now?
Please write these here, not on some sketchpad web site.
 
Mother's age: 30.
The sum of her sons ages: 15
 
blunted said:
Mother's age: 30.
The sum of her sons ages: 15

OK, so right now, the mother's age is two times the sum of the sons' ages. That checks.

In 5 years, the mother will be 35, and the sum of the sons' ages will be 25. That doesn't check.[/color]

You might have forgotten that in 5 years, each son will be 5 years older, so the sum of their ages will have increased by 10.
 
But I found the mother's age today. 5 years after.
 
blunted said:
But I found the mother's age today. 5 years after.

Still wrong. What linear equations are you solving? Ok, I looked at the sketchtoy thing. You've got M=2S now. The sons age too. In 5 years the equation will become M+5=(S+10)+20.
 
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I cannot wrap my head around it. No matter how much I tried.
 
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blunted said:
I cannot wrap my head around it. No matter how much I tried.

Why? Now M=2S. You wrote that and I agree. In five years M changes to M+5 because the mother ages 5 years and S changes to S+10 because each son ages 5 years. Then you have M+5=(S+10)+20 since the mother's age is then 20 years older than the sum of the sons ages. What's so mind blowing?
 
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Seems like too much maths is not good. I head off to bed. Thanks for the help.
 
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blunted said:
Seems like too much maths is not good. I head off to bed. Thanks for the help.

Sure, think it over after some rest. It'll probably seem much easier.
 
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