Solve Notation Puzzle: Vertical Bars in Equations Homework

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The discussion revolves around understanding the notation used in two equations from a paper related to spiral dynamics. Participants are particularly focused on the meaning of vertical bars next to certain terms and the implications for implementing these equations in a programming context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the vertical bars and their significance in the equations. There are questions about the evaluation of terms and the correct interpretation of summation indices. Some participants also reflect on the author's background and its potential impact on the clarity of the mathematical presentation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the notation and the summation limits. There is an indication that one participant has made progress in understanding the zero crossing function, but no consensus has been reached on the original notation issue.

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Participants are working with equations from a specific paper and are attempting to reconcile notation that may be unclear or unconventional. There are concerns about the accuracy of the summation limits as presented in the paper.

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Homework Statement


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I have these two equations from this paper: https://www.scribd.com/doc/299960566/Spiral

Homework Equations


What are the vertical bars next to the drawn red starts supposed to indicate in this context?

I'm trying to implement these equations into a program but I'm totally lost. I have no idea what's up with those vertical bars next to the red stars that I drew. Is it supposed to be the terms evaluated at (j+1-rtheta)? If so, then what variable is it even being plugged into (r or theta)?

The Attempt at a Solution


Googling and asking my professor.
 
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Aaerion said:

Homework Statement


illW9X5.png


I have these two equations from this paper: https://www.scribd.com/doc/299960566/Spiral

Homework Equations


What are the vertical bars next to the drawn red starts supposed to indicate in this context?
Vertical bars like that usually mean at what value the quantity to the left is evaluated at. The summation looks screwy to me, though, as the sum runs from j = 1 to j - 1, which doesn't make sense. If it had been written like what's below, that would make more sense to me.
$$\sum_{j = 1}^{J - 1} \dots$$
I.e., not reusing j (lower case) as both the index of the sum and the ending point.

The author of the paper you're citing is an MD, so I suspect that he is not as able as he could be to communicate mathematical equations.
Aaerion said:
I'm trying to implement these equations into a program but I'm totally lost. I have no idea what's up with those vertical bars next to the red stars that I drew. Is it supposed to be the terms evaluated at (j+1-rtheta)? If so, then what variable is it even being plugged into (r or theta)?

The Attempt at a Solution


Googling and asking my professor.
 
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I just looked up zero crossing function in general and I think I figured it out. From what I can understand, the summation should actually be from j=1 to J-1. Furthermore, inside the sign functions, the average slope is subtracted from the slope at points j+1 and j respectively. Doing this will allow me to determine how many times the slope crosses its mean during data collection.
 
Aaerion said:
I just looked up zero crossing function in general and I think I figured it out. From what I can understand, the summation should actually be from j=1 to J-1.
That makes much more sense.
Aaerion said:
Furthermore, inside the sign functions, the average slope is subtracted from the slope at points j+1 and j respectively. Doing this will allow me to determine how many times the slope crosses its mean during data collection.
 

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