Solve OPAMP Circuit Problem: Find Vo with Vin1=3V, Vin2=-2V

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The discussion revolves around solving an operational amplifier (OPAMP) circuit problem, specifically finding the output voltage (Vo) given certain input voltages (Vin1 and Vin2) and resistor values. The context includes both theoretical calculations and practical simulation results using Multisim.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a set of equations derived from Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) to calculate the output voltage Vo, given specific resistor values and input voltages.
  • The same participant notes a discrepancy between their calculated voltage V2 and the value reported by Multisim, which is higher than expected.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in the circuit setup, indicating that R3 was incorrectly set to 300kΩ in the simulation instead of the stated 100kΩ.
  • The original poster acknowledges the oversight regarding the resistor value and expresses gratitude for the correction.
  • A later reply suggests that the voltmeters used in the simulation have an impedance of 10MΩ, which could affect the circuit behavior and the accuracy of the measured values compared to the calculated ones.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the identification of the error in the resistor value, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the impact of the voltmeter impedance on the simulation results.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly concerning the ideal behavior of the OPAMP and the influence of measurement tools on circuit performance.

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Hi!
Here is my task:
Find output voltage Vo if Vin1=3V, Vin2=-2V, R1=R2=R3=100KΩ, R4=300KΩ, R5=150KΩ, VCC=15V.

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Applying KCL at node 2 we get:
$$-Iin2+I5-Icc=0$$
$$-\frac{V3-V2+Vin2}{R3}+\frac{V2-V3}{R5}-\frac{V3-V2+Vcc}{R4}=0$$
$$-\frac{Vin2-V2}{R3}+\frac{V2}{R5}-\frac{Vcc-V2}{R4}=0$$
$$V1=V2=\frac{Vin2/R3+Vcc/R4}{1/R3+1/R5+1/R4}=1.5V$$
But Multisim give me different voltage V2:

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As you can see, Multisim measure 3.226V.
Here is OPAMP setup (since it's ideal, I put some huge numbers for A and input resistance, output resistance is 0):

postavke1.jpg


Any idea what's wrong?
 
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In your Multisim circuit you have set R3 to 300k, but the problem statement says it is 100k.
 
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I can't figure out how I didn't see it :) Thanks!
 
etf said:
I can't figure out how I didn't see it :) Thanks!

Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes on the problem can pick out the things you miss repeatedly due to familiarity!


You might want to take note that in your simulation the "voltmeters" have an impedance of 10MΩ, and will influence the circuit behavior to some extent (it'll show up in the second or third digit of the values I'm guessing). So don't be surprised if your calculated values are almost but not quite the same as your "measured" ones!
 

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