Engineering Solve Particular Solution for R3 in Circuit with V1=V2=L1=L2=0

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The discussion focuses on solving for the particular solution of R3 in a circuit where v1, v2, l1, and l2 are set to zero at t=0. The user attempted node analysis and derived two differential equations but found the results unrealistic, suspecting errors in the equations. Simulations at different frequencies indicated that frequency effects were minimal, reinforcing doubts about the differential equations. The circuit is identified as a low-pass filter, where DC signals pass while high-frequency signals are blocked. Suggestions were made to use complex impedances or the s-domain for simpler circuit analysis to avoid complications with differential equations.
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1. Homework Statement
The problem says:
For the next circuit obtain a particular solution for R3 when v1=v2=l1=l2=0 at t=0.
vs= cos(wt) dc source= 10v *R3 is the 1k resistor.
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2. Homework Equations


Kirchoff current law



3. The Attempt at a Solution


With node analysis, there are two differential equations to solve, I solved the differential equation and got:

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According to simulations the efect of frequency is not too strong, I think that the system of DE was wrong, and that's why solution isn't reallistic.


PD. voltage v is noise and it equals to cos(wt). I Have done a simulation i'll add it.

Simulations:
W=1Hz
W=1MHz


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1f5 said:
According to simulations the efect of frequency is not too strong, I think that the system of DE was wrong, and that's why solution isn't reallistic.

That circuit is called a doubly terminated lossless ladder and it is a low pass filter. LC elements arranged in a ladder like that result from implementing filters from a given transfer function and such circuits can be almost automatically generated.

You wouldn't know that at this point of course, but you can see the low pass character like this. Capacitors are open circuits at DC and inductors are short circuits at DC. This means a DC input signal will only see a resistor divider. At high frequencies, capacitors are short circuits (1/jwC goes to zero) and inductors are open circuits (jwL goes to infinity). These means there is no path from input to output for high frequency signals and the output will be zero. So at low frequencies you have output and high frequencies you have no output. That's a low pass filter.

The differential equations you wrote give me a headache. Do you not transform the elements to complex impedances or into the s-domain to solve the circuit algebraically? The impedance of a capacitor is 1/sC (or 1/jwC) and the impedance of an inductor is sL (or jwL). This greatly simplifies analysis and avoids errors in coupled differential equations.
 

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