Solve Physics Q1 from 2007 Paper61. Cambridge Maths Postgrad

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem from a Cambridge past paper, specifically focusing on the expression n_{[a;b}n_{c]}=0 and its implications. Participants seek clarification on the definitions of normal vectors and their relation to tangent vectors, as well as how to manipulate covariant derivatives in the context of Killing vectors. There is a significant emphasis on using properties of the Riemann tensor and Ricci identities to derive necessary results, with some confusion about the placement of indices and the assumptions regarding torsion-free connections. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the importance of understanding the relationships between various mathematical entities in the context of differential geometry and general relativity. The thread concludes with participants sharing insights on how to approach the next parts of the problem effectively.
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The separation is not fully done (there's some explicit and some implicit dependence of the Ricci tensor of u), however the second equation will lead you to a successful use of 1. and 2. in what I wrote above.

So post your final equation.
 
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bigubau said:
The separation is not fully done (there's some explicit and some implicit dependence of the Ricci tensor of u), however the second equation will lead you to a successful use of 1. and 2. in what I wrote above.

So post your final equation.

Well, I don't knkow how to use that in 1.

However, for 2. I get:

k_aR^a{}_{[b}k_{c]}=0
\Rightarrow 4 \pi ( \rho + p) k_a u^a ( u_b k_c - u_c k_b) + ( 4 \pi p + \frac{1}{4} R)(k_bk_c-k_ck_b)=0

I'm getting pretty confused as to where this is going though!
 
  • #53


What can you derive of what you've written ? The second term of the sum vanishes, right ? So ?
 
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bigubau said:
What can you derive of what you've written ? The second term of the sum vanishes, right ? So ?

u_b k_c=u_ck_b?

Is it then just a case of contracting with k^c since that gives

u_b k_c k^c=u_c k^c k_b \Rightarrow u_b = \lambda k_b since k_ck^c, u_c k^c are both scalars, right?
 
  • #55


Yes, finally. :)

Did you solve the rest of the exercises, in case you needed it ?
 

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